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Hi I started playing about 2 weeks ago online.  Although I am not on everyday I have managed to hit rank 15-16 with a 76% win.  Ive read up on some otto strats but my rush isnt that great against master sarge and up and I dont really have the knowledge to counter that well.  I was wondering if there are any non expansion recorded games of a perfect rush and late game otto that I could take a look at. Havnt watched a game yet but I heard it helps.  I should also mention I go with a pure jan rush and almost always go 1v1.  My AIM screen name is kylmnky if anyone has the time for some tips. 

wtf it took me forever to get to 14 and you get it in 2 weeks....GOD what has the world come to?ummmm i have a rush strat 15 jans 3 hussars at there base at 530 - 600 my aim is brickmasterb so im me.....about the above uhh isucked when i started but then i learned to rush and since then ive won like 90% so yeah i dont suck......

Ive been playing people my rank or 1 above and 2 below so its going pretty quick.  The 2v2 games Ive won help alot more than 1v1.  What Id really like to do it talk to someone rank 25 or 30 plus.  No offense to you but those are the guys that start winning way more than losing.

Baxstaber:

wtf it took me forever to get to 14 and you get it in 2 weeks....GOD what has the world come to?ummmm i have a rush strat 15 jans 3 hussars at there base at 530 - 600 my aim is brickmasterb so im me.....about the above uhh isucked when i started but then i learned to rush and since then ive won like 90% so yeah i dont suck......

OMFG I am roflmfao so freaking hard. how the he11 do you play 200 games and still be a freaking sergeant!!!!!! that is so lame....oh and sergeant isn't sucking????? Sorry to tell you but it is unless you play constantly people that are master sarg and up and that is why you are serg, cause u lose so much to them. Sorry to be mean but, I have played like 55 games and am sarg and play 2nd luts. and beat them. sad sad sad......

I agree with bhe black rid3r...

Sergeant does suck.

 So yes you suck. (not you, bhe black rid3r, the other guy...)

No i don't suck

No i'm not great either.

 For Clarification, i'm a lvl 25 1st lt. who wins 72% of the time and plays primarily russian.

 

Are you saying I suck? because I have maybe played 20-25 games and im a high seargent.  Anyway lets get back on topic with ottoman please.  Anyone interested in talking very specific build orders times and #s of what and when? or point me to some non expansion recorded games?

cookie cutter person on the loose watch out. standard ottoman rush:

3 villies to crates, 3 to hunt. Send explorer to trade route TP and build. Build house. all villies to food. First card 3 villies. Age between 2:10 and 2:30. Switch 4 villies to gold during age up. send 2 villies forward to hunt near enemy base. tc waypoint remains on food.

Age 2: Collect age up wood with 2-3 villies. Send 5 jannies. Build rax and 2 houses. Queue up jannissaries.

5:15 : 10 jannies are at your FB, begin harrassment process. Kill villies, knock down houses and military buildings.

6:00 : 15 jannies ready. Attack full on. next card will be 700 food. use it to fuel your jannie rush. send 600 food and do the same. you should be able to pump jannies out of 1 barracks for awhile. Send 700 wood and build artillery foundry and houses and w/e else you want. I would also reccomend upgrading the trade route. Send 700 gold and spam some abus guns. Set trade route to wood and try to get as many TPs as possible up, then set them to food. This will now power your rush now that the 700 and 600f crates are expended. Do w/e you want now, if he isn't down by this point, go fortress.

If you really want some indepth stuff, go to gamereplays and find the Art of the Ottoman. really good guide by PR 40 person well that is pretty well known. hope it helped

dude i started out rly bad and now i win like 90% of my games

beat a 1st lut 3 times in a row so yeah

I am just wondering why somebody would want to learn the standard ottoman jannisary rush:

1) everyone expects it

2) it can be easily countered by light infranty

3) there are dozens of better strategies out there, using or not using Ottomans.

4) it sucks

Seriously, the otto rush is not very good, right now their best strats are the Spahi ff, (or any thing  with a fast fortress time) and the fish boom. 

And yes, from my perspective, you suck. (again, not bhe black rid3r) 

Yeah well I just really did not want to post 5 posts of sephiroths guide, and the guy wanted a cookie cutter BO, and sephiroths strats aren't cookie cutter(thank god). OH WOW IM IMPRESSED A 1st lut. sheesh yeah I have done it to, its not the hardest thing in the world. I am guessing the 1st lut u played was a noobasher. I have played a captain and was so freakin close to winning.....Curse my inability to remember the stupid villie cap upgrade from mosque....

Then perhaps its not my rush strategy that is the problem but actually the rush strategy in general.  I follow mostly what you posted above sometimes raiding with 5 or 15 or waiting for 20 but either way Im in their base with 20 before 7 min or so.  So your saying the spahi FF is the best strat? even against a rusher? especially a pike/halb rush?(freaking dutch) Ill check out the ottoman thing. TY.  Yeah and I appreciate the "you suck" comments thats really helping me out and constructive.