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Seriously the samurais(not the regulars one)are deffinetly OP.ES realy should decrease their power.Its just too strong!And the hand mortar is realy too UP they should make them stronger.

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the hamoto samarai is OP and i think it should be because its only available from the consolate can it costs 290 export. all you gotta do is make anti heavy infantry to defeat the hamoto samaurais. Unless its really late in the game a player cant heavily mass those samaurais anyways.

the hand mortar for chinese is only 1 pop if im not mistaken so i dont see why it shouldnt be UP i dont know the stats of the chinese hand mortar but odds are if u add up 4 hand mortars it will add up to a normal european mortar. 

Personally i feel they are not even close, xbows and skirms take care of them pretty well. They do their job and co-enside with history as being one of the best soldiers on earth, if your sword can cut through another guys sword if hit the correct way that is pretty OP so if they are keep them that way.

Ashg. are the only japanese unit that needs to be nerfed for the games sake and for the fact that in real life they were conscripts. Compare them to the Consripts and then they are about equal. These units are OP and need to be weakened.

lubi125:

Seriously the samurais(not the regulars one)are deffinetly OP.ES realy should decrease their power.Its just too strong!And the hand mortar is realy too UP they should make them stronger.

Comments please

Please take not that a Hatamoto costs more vs than a Falconet and thus should be as effective as one, if not better...

[-FFA-]NitroZ:

the hamoto samarai is OP and i think it should be because its only available from the consolate can it costs 290 export. all you gotta do is make anti heavy infantry to defeat the hamoto samaurais. Unless its really late in the game a player cant heavily mass those samaurais anyways.

 

the hand mortar for chinese is only 1 pop if im not mistaken so i dont see why it shouldnt be UP i dont know the stats of the chinese hand mortar but odds are if u add up 4 hand mortars it will add up to a normal european mortar. 

Actually, correct me if Im wrong but a regular Mortar is stronger than 6 hand mortars, which also cost more at 300 Food, 540 Wood for less building damage...

Lazurath:

Yes, whilst Hand Mortars are worse against buildings than convention Mortars, you're forgetting that they can attack units (especially artillery) and I think have a faster ROF..

Nah, I dont think that they have a faster ROF. So basically the hand mortar is a culv with good siege attack? An anti artillery grenadier? Kk, that makes the extortionate cost for siege attack clearer... And the fact that hand mortars are the only unit, where in a group of 50 cannot kill a settler wagon is nothing to scream about.

I played as Japan in a 1v1 against a French guy a while back... he was spamming cuiraseurs right at my hatamotos.  I laughed so hard... his horses outnumbered my hats by probably 4 to 1 but it was a bloodbath.  He resigned after his precious cavalry had been cut to shreds. 

 Oh, and I disagree with the other guy who said that ashigarus need to be nerfed... they've already been nerfed in the last patch so let's keep them the way they are now.
 

It's impossible for a sword to cut through another sword, it will break before it gets cut in half.

Hatamoto are defeated just as easily by cannons as they are your typical HI counters.