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Last post 06-25-2012, 4:07 PM by vi3tknight. 38 replies.
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Portuguese advantages and disadvantages
Advantages: - very flexible civilization - have very good anticavalry unit - Dragoon (the most upgradable in this civilization) - neednt build town centers (receive with every age) - tough defense after sending TEAM better =D walls - add Disadvantages: - havent ´´strong´´ unit (such as cuirassiers, doppelsoldners, etc) (((you know what I mean ))) - add
ESO name: demonkevin
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Re: Portuguese advantages and disadvantages
Dopellsolder:- havent ´´strong´´ unit (such as cuirassiers, doppelsoldners, etc) (((you know what I mean )))
Their strong unit is their culvs which take 3 shots to kill, and their cassador which are among the best skirms.
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You dont understand me. I meant unit that is quickly trainable, take little pop and is overall tough (organ guns are easy defeated by cavalry and culv are ´´advantage´´ of all european civs) - so I meant cavalry or infantry. BTW: cassadors are as good as other skrimishers (of course except strelet). They have better resistance(, higher attack (but not in AD)) but much less hp.
ESO name: demonkevin
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Re: Portuguese advantages and disadvantages
Dopellsolder:You dont understand me. I meant unit that is quickly trainable, take little pop and is overall tough (organ guns are easy defeated by cavalry and culv are ´´advantage´´ of all european civs) - so I meant cavalry or infantry.
Then you can take hussar. They are pretty terrible unit for ports, but the high hp fits your discription. And btw ports do have good muskets.
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jayve98:What he means is Ports dont have 1 dominant unit that can just dominate everything but its counter. curs kill basically everything except goons or halbs or a cav counter. Doppels beat just about anything it can get close enough to
Absolutely right. Thanks Jayve. BTW: I learn English second year so my English expression is not so good.
ESO name: demonkevin
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Re: Portuguese advantages and disadvantages
Dopellsolder:You dont understand me. I meant unit that is quickly trainable, take little pop and is overall tough (organ guns are easy defeated by cavalry and culv are ´´advantage´´ of all european civs) - so I meant cavalry or infantry.
I think you are missing the point... you ask for the pros/cons of port and the culv card is a VERY important aspect. At higher levels of play, it makes a significant difference and really helps to make the Port civ competitive. Saying that you only meant cav and infantry is missing some of the most important aspects of the game.
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The Cleaner: Dopellsolder:You dont understand me. I meant unit that is quickly trainable, take little pop and is overall tough (organ guns are easy defeated by cavalry and culv are ´´advantage´´ of all european civs) - so I meant cavalry or infantry.
I think you are missing the point... you ask for the pros/cons of port and the culv card is a VERY important aspect. At higher levels of play, it makes a significant difference and really helps to make the Port civ competitive. Saying that you only meant cav and infantry is missing some of the most important aspects of the game.
I asked about unique portuguese advantages (culverins have all europeans).
ESO name: demonkevin
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Re: Portuguese advantages and disadvantages
Dopellsolder: The Cleaner: Dopellsolder:
You dont understand me. I meant unit that is quickly trainable, take little pop and is overall tough (organ guns are easy defeated by cavalry and culv are ´´advantage´´ of all european civs) - so I meant cavalry or infantry.
I think you are missing the point... you ask for the pros/cons of port and the culv card is a VERY important aspect. At higher levels of play, it makes a significant difference and really helps to make the Port civ competitive. Saying that you only meant cav and infantry is missing some of the most important aspects of the game.
I asked about unique portuguese advantages (culverins have all europeans).
all europeans have walls, but you still listed the wall card.
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StormComing: Dopellsolder: The Cleaner: Dopellsolder:
You dont understand me. I meant unit that is quickly trainable, take little pop and is overall tough (organ guns are easy defeated by cavalry and culv are ´´advantage´´ of all european civs) - so I meant cavalry or infantry.
I think you are missing the point... you ask for the pros/cons of port and the culv card is a VERY important aspect. At higher levels of play, it makes a significant difference and really helps to make the Port civ competitive. Saying that you only meant cav and infantry is missing some of the most important aspects of the game.
I asked about unique portuguese advantages (culverins have all europeans).
all europeans have walls, but you still listed the wall card.
Yes, walls have every civ (except sioux), but TEAM wall card has only Portugal.
ESO name: demonkevin
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Re: Portuguese advantages and disadvantages
Dopellsolder: The Cleaner: Dopellsolder:You dont understand me. I meant unit that is quickly trainable, take little pop and is overall tough (organ guns are easy defeated by cavalry and culv are ´´advantage´´ of all european civs) - so I meant cavalry or infantry.
I think you are missing the point... you ask for the pros/cons of port and the culv card is a VERY important aspect. At higher levels of play, it makes a significant difference and really helps to make the Port civ competitive. Saying that you only meant cav and infantry is missing some of the most important aspects of the game.
I asked about unique portuguese advantages (culverins have all europeans).
The strength of their culv IS unique to Port, not all europeans.
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Dopellsolder:I asked about unique portuguese advantages (culverins have all europeans).
Captain obvious, maybe try reading my post again. Port culvs are unique because they take 3 shots from a regular euro culv to kill, this is a massive advantage to the civ in many MU's. Their cassador are very good, they're pretty close to being on par with france or spain skirms i would argue, and completely **** dutch and german skirms. Only ones that are clearly better are wakina and forest prowler. Cassador are your closest thing the a dominate unit for port. Combined with their dragoons make for one of the best skirm/goon combinations in the game.
The whole 1 dominate unit is irrelevant, only france has that and they're considered an op civ. Dopples are hard countered by many things, they don't dominate every counter.
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Re: Portuguese advantages and disadvantages
Dopellsolder:You dont understand me. I meant unit that is quickly trainable, take little pop and is overall tough (organ guns are easy defeated by cavalry and culv are ´´advantage´´ of all european civs) - so I meant cavalry or infantry. BTW: cassadors are as good as other skrimishers (of course except strelet). They have better resistance(, higher attack (but not in AD)) but much less hp.
man are you kidding ? cas are the best euro ski(may be after spain ) port is the best range civ , there mortors are op
only disadvantage is the are not too gud vs mele(althrough they have gud musk )
knight_br:Optimal explanation .. very succinctly
LordStefanIII: Unkown_Genius:Leave it to Age.Comm to get a thread twenty miles off topic.
:) Or turn into a flame war.
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