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GeneralN20:

There were MANY revolts in Mexico against the Spanish government, moron.

None of them were as great as those done by the Incas and their descendants.

Why are you bringing up Incan revolts two hundred years after the conquest?

Because these were still Incas, the majority were not pure-blooded, but there were some that still were completely Inca. The rebellion wanted to liberate the Inca nation, therefore, it is completely fair game to bring it into account.

Did the Aztecs ever actually make such a comeback?

The fact that it's been noted several times that Aztec armor was very durable, efficient, and versatile.

And how the heck do you get, from your statement, that the Aztec armor was better than the Inca armor? Seriously, you're getting information from nowhere, you're exagerating the truth.

But the Spanish installment of power was a lot more different and harsh in Mexico than Peru.

That's not true. The Spanish had established a large stronghold in the Viceroyalty of Peru, which was the last South American Viceroyalty to be liberated.

Idiocy at it's finest.

Spanish power in Peru was not as harsh as in Mexico, brush up on history and you'd know that.

Hahaha are you kidding? The majority of them were mixed, it's moronic to think that.

Because there is no praise for Incan armor, at all.

Incan military technology was terrible, since they inflicted nearly no casualties to the Spanish.

The military technology of the Inca was certainly not the "most advanced" there was, but it certainly wasn't bad either. The Incas made use of what they had, and they pretty much came up with several interesting weapons--including the best metal weapons in America.

The Spanish weaponry was by far better, and that problem was not just Incan, but rather it stretched throughout the whole continent.

The Aztecs only had the cover of their location as their main aid against the Spanish, but once the Spanish had them in open fields, the Aztec forces were easily decimated by Spanish gunfire.

Only idiots like you would think the Aztecs were olympic champions that could dodge everything they were thrown.

The Inca did not have bronze plate armor, do you enjoy making things up?

You're such an idiot, the Incas did have bronze plate armor. Literally speaking, they had a plate of bronze on their chests.

It's also pretty sad how you still use wikipedia.

What's sad is how I'm kicking your sorry butt in this discussion.

Why was the siege of tenochtitlan the longest battle ever in history then?

Your mind is roughly corrupted and sick, I really feel pitty for your ignorance.

The Battle of Verdun is the longest battle in history, taking nearly 10 months to complete.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Verdun

The Inca were decimated by the Spanish, even their revolts were crushed.

It just goes to show that even when the Incas were at their weakes of points, they still had a strong fighting spirit. If the Incas had been at their full potential, then it can be logically concluded that the Incas would have beat back the Spanish force under Pizarro and more than likely also beaten back future Spanish expeditions.

It was really all a matter of good timing for the Spanish.

There is a lot more known about Incan battles than Aztec.

Well, duh, that's because the Incas put up a greater resistance to being subjugated. Yet, not all the Inca battles or skirmishes are known, specially those that the Incas actually won.

The only major Aztec loss was Otumba, that's only because of Cortes' cunning battle plans.

I've dissolved this argument.

You've apparently dissolved several things, including your brains. j/k

I'm not going to change the opinion of a disillusioned moron, so i'm done trying.

You have never tried to change my opinions, you've only been stating stupid comments and I have practically refuted every single lie you stated about the Incas, while you did nothing but slowly diminish your posts as you ran out of lies to post.

You are nothing but an incan defender because they had more gold so you praise them.

I praise the Incas because they deserve it. Their goal was to rid the Andes out of barbarians and cannibals, and slowly they drove out practices of human sacrifices and reserved them only for extremely special occasions. The Incas had an amazing infrastructure, and irrigation and road systems that served as the veins for the empire. No buddy, you're completely wrong, their gold is not the reason as to why the Incas deserve praise, it is because they actually did things of great grandeur (With amazing citadels and highly developed mathematics).

Heck, the Incas didn't have a written language, but they literally "wrote math" to communicate--the Quipus. Not only is that something completely unique, but also incredibly smart.

They've never done anything great, their military was useless

Your arguments are useless, I've already refuted this statement. Get a new line or change parrots.

the only achievment they are known for is Machu Picchu and...uhh...their gold usage?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. You're such an ignorant...

Spanish power in Peru was not as harsh as in Mexico, brush up on history and you'd know that.

Yest it was. Show me your sources to validate your statement. Otherwise all you're showing me is that you're still imagining things. You don't write your own history dude.

Hahaha are you kidding? The majority of them were mixed, it's moronic to think that.

Whatever. You're impossible to discuss something with. So far you've shown yourself to love arguing for the sake of arguing, even if gets you nowhere. I really hope some day you'll stop being such an ignorant.

Actaully lets return on topic guys, cause this posts of history facts are very interesting but they dont say in the currect topic, the current topic is adding more civs, its like WTF with JUST 14 civs (ok 14 is OK for me and its good for me, BUT FOR 3 GAMES) but remebmer guys that this 14 civs are for 3 GAMES, NOT JUST 1 BIG GAME, ARE 3 ARE 3!!!!! I completely agree with aoe3 its a great game, just thing I dont like of it are the little numbe of civilziation, when TWC come I said WTF JUST 3 CIVS! Then I was surprised why Incas werent in them, the same with Koreans in TAD, I would like to add The INCA civilization to TWC, the KOREAN to TAD (there are tons of topics in TAD that were done months ago of why no Koreans, still the Koreans had a great empire at its time, how? I already told u to go and read it in TAD general discussion, but some of the ancient topics, the only ahrd thing is to find another civilization to aoe3, since there are 8, I have no idea of a 9th and less of a 10th, but I guess Austrians are a good option.

I dont want any flames, just understand what I am meaning, oh yeah General, thanks for kiking the butt of cosmic noob of this thread, he cant just accept the Incas were greater than aztecs. But its good to know theres 1 idiot less to this thread .
 

GeneralN20:

Incan military technology was terrible, since they inflicted nearly no casualties to the Spanish.

The military technology of the Inca was certainly not the "most advanced" there was, but it certainly wasn't bad either. The Incas made use of what they had, and they pretty much came up with several interesting weapons--including the best metal weapons in America.

The Spanish weaponry was by far better, and that problem was not just Incan, but rather it stretched throughout the whole continent.

The Aztecs only had the cover of their location as their main aid against the Spanish, but once the Spanish had them in open fields, the Aztec forces were easily decimated by Spanish gunfire.

Only idiots like you would think the Aztecs were olympic champions that could dodge everything they were thrown.

The Inca did not have bronze plate armor, do you enjoy making things up?

You're such an idiot, the Incas did have bronze plate armor. Literally speaking, they had a plate of bronze on their chests.

 

It's also pretty sad how you still use wikipedia.

What's sad is how I'm kicking your sorry butt in this discussion.

 

Why was the siege of tenochtitlan the longest battle ever in history then?

Your mind is roughly corrupted and sick, I really feel pitty for your ignorance.

The Battle of Verdun is the longest battle in history, taking nearly 10 months to complete.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Verdun

The Inca were decimated by the Spanish, even their revolts were crushed.

It just goes to show that even when the Incas were at their weakes of points, they still had a strong fighting spirit. If the Incas had been at their full potential, then it can be logically concluded that the Incas would have beat back the Spanish force under Pizarro and more than likely also beaten back future Spanish expeditions.

It was really all a matter of good timing for the Spanish.

There is a lot more known about Incan battles than Aztec.

Well, duh, that's because the Incas put up a greater resistance to being subjugated. Yet, not all the Inca battles or skirmishes are known, specially those that the Incas actually won.

The only major Aztec loss was Otumba, that's only because of Cortes' cunning battle plans.

I've dissolved this argument.

You've apparently dissolved several things, including your brains. j/k

I'm not going to change the opinion of a disillusioned moron, so i'm done trying.

You have never tried to change my opinions, you've only been stating stupid comments and I have practically refuted every single lie you stated about the Incas, while you did nothing but slowly diminish your posts as you ran out of lies to post.

You are nothing but an incan defender because they had more gold so you praise them.

I praise the Incas because they deserve it. Their goal was to rid the Andes out of barbarians and cannibals, and slowly they drove out practices of human sacrifices and reserved them only for extremely special occasions. The Incas had an amazing infrastructure, and irrigation and road systems that served as the veins for the empire. No buddy, you're completely wrong, their gold is not the reason as to why the Incas deserve praise, it is because they actually did things of great grandeur (With amazing citadels and highly developed mathematics).

Heck, the Incas didn't have a written language, but they literally "wrote math" to communicate--the Quipus. Not only is that something completely unique, but also incredibly smart.

They've never done anything great, their military was useless

Your arguments are useless, I've already refuted this statement. Get a new line or change parrots.

the only achievment they are known for is Machu Picchu and...uhh...their gold usage?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. You're such an ignorant...

Oh okay so you were there when the Aztec fought the Spanish in open-field battles? There are nearly no accounts off open-field battles of the Aztec and Spanish.

No, they didn't. If you are talking about that small circular bronze piece, that is not considered armor. If they had bronze plate armor, they would've stood a larger chance against the Spanish.

No, Wikipedia is a terrible source of information. It's been noted several times that the Siege of Tenochtitlan was the longest battle in history, either that or siege.

Haha it's terribly pathetic how you defend the Inca with that "not at their full potential". The Inca stood no chance.

No, it isn't. Since all the accounted battles show nearly no losses of Spanish troops.

Oh that's all you have to say? a little emoticon?

Oh and the Aztecs were morons that built buildings with mud and sticks and had no knowledge of mathematics? The Aztecs are known for their amazing infrastructure, unique and intelligent building techniques, highly advanced irrigation systems, great knowledge of astrology, highly developted legal systems, discipled warfare, written language, very clean and progressing capital, their advanced and extremely safe roads, etc.

Their neighboring enemies had the same technology as the Inca, the Inca had weak technology so...they were equally weak.

But their capital was shaped as a puma! how astounding!

GeneralN20:

Spanish power in Peru was not as harsh as in Mexico, brush up on history and you'd know that.

Yest it was. Show me your sources to validate your statement. Otherwise all you're showing me is that you're still imagining things. You don't write your own history dude.

Hahaha are you kidding? The majority of them were mixed, it's moronic to think that.

Whatever. You're impossible to discuss something with. So far you've shown yourself to love arguing for the sake of arguing, even if gets you nowhere. I really hope some day you'll stop being such an ignorant.

By the fact that revolts were not easily constructed in Mexico.

"Whatever". Your wit is unmatched.

Let me ask you this, if the Inca were so great then why did the priests and spaniards take no times to account their life and other aspects of their nation? When they did so for the Aztec?

Ivan el Terrible:

Actaully lets return on topic guys, cause this posts of history facts are very interesting but they dont say in the currect topic, the current topic is adding more civs, its like WTF with JUST 14 civs (ok 14 is OK for me and its good for me, BUT FOR 3 GAMES) but remebmer guys that this 14 civs are for 3 GAMES, NOT JUST 1 BIG GAME, ARE 3 ARE 3!!!!! I completely agree with aoe3 its a great game, just thing I dont like of it are the little numbe of civilziation, when TWC come I said WTF JUST 3 CIVS! Then I was surprised why Incas werent in them, the same with Koreans in TAD, I would like to add The INCA civilization to TWC, the KOREAN to TAD (there are tons of topics in TAD that were done months ago of why no Koreans, still the Koreans had a great empire at its time, how? I already told u to go and read it in TAD general discussion, but some of the ancient topics, the only ahrd thing is to find another civilization to aoe3, since there are 8, I have no idea of a 9th and less of a 10th, but I guess Austrians are a good option.

I dont want any flames, just understand what I am meaning, oh yeah General, thanks for kiking the butt of cosmic noob of this thread, he cant just accept the Incas were greater than aztecs. But its good to know theres 1 idiot less to this thread .
 

haha that lost the argument is trying to act "cool".

 Inca were a terrible nation, that's why they aren't included in ANYTHING.

Oh okay so you were there when the Aztec fought the Spanish in open-field battles? There are nearly no accounts off open-field battles of the Aztec and Spanish.

This has got to be one of the stupidest reasonings I've ever seen. Of course there weren't a lot of open-field battles, that's what I've been posting you nimwit! Why do you think I said the Aztec's main defense was their location?

The few open-field battles that the Aztecs and the Spanish had; the Spanish won them easily as the Aztecs desperately retreated back into the jungles of Meso-America.

No, they didn't. If you are talking about that small circular bronze piece, that is not considered armor.

Why the heck do you think what you say is golden and should be rule?

That "small circular bronze piece" was used as armor because it protected the body of the wearer. Therefore, it is a type of armor!

It is not a full-chest armor, but it is a bronze plate armor!!!!

It's been noted several times that the Siege of Tenochtitlan was the longest battle in history, either that or siege.

Dude, type in google "longest battle" and you'll get Battle of Verdun. It's not just Wikipedia that states this.

Oh, and now you're not even sure about your statement. *sighs* Get your facts straight before trying to impose them here.

 Haha it's terribly pathetic how you defend the Inca with that "not at their full potential". The Inca stood no chance.

*Sighs* Idiots these days...they come in all sizes and shapes...

Oh and the Aztecs were morons that built buildings with mud and sticks and had no knowledge of mathematics?

See, there you go again with making dumb conclusions from things I did not say!

Look, if you think the Aztecs built buildings with mud and stick, then that's your problem.

The Aztecs are known for their amazing infrastructure, unique and intelligent building techniques, highly advanced irrigation systems, great knowledge of astrology, highly developted legal systems, discipled warfare, written language, very clean and progressing capital, their advanced and extremely safe roads, etc.

Look, like I've been repeatedly saying before, I'm not trying to bash the Aztecs. At one point when I was a little hot-head like you, I remember I loved talking trash about the Aztecs too. Yet, the Aztecs are also a very awesome civilization with very cool things that deserve praise. Yet, as much as you want to set things your way, the Incas were better than the Aztecs at most things.

Roads? The Incas's were best. Irrigation systems? The Inca's were best. Knowledge of Astrology? About the same, but the Mayas were best. Disciplined Warfare? The Incas and the Aztecs had the best military in the Americas.  Clean and Progressing Capital? Both the Incas and Aztecs. Legal systems? Both were about the same too.

the Inca had weak technology so...they were equally weak.

Yes, the Inca technology at first was very weak. Yet, as they conquered new tribes and expanded their empire, the Incas' technology became the most advanced in the Americas.

Remember that the Mongols didn't start as a super-power, they had to make it.

Their neighboring enemies had the same technology as the Inca

The technology of the neighbors of the Incas's was at times actually much better.

But their capital was shaped as a puma! how astounding!

Lol. You're such a fool.

By the fact that revolts were not easily constructed in Mexico.

No, that just means the people in Mexico just didn't have that "revolt" spirit.

Heck, the Mayas kept up their revolt against the Spanish for nearly the same amount of time the Incas did. The Aztecs are the only ones that just gave up after their empire was out.

Let me ask you this, if the Inca were so great then why did the priests and spaniards take no times to account their life and other aspects of their nation? When they did so for the Aztec?

Lol. They did!

There are several writings about the Incas in the National Library of Peru. There are also several examples of that in Spain and Chile (Spain and Chile took part of them from Peru).

The problem is that even until today, the people from the Andes tend to seclude themselves and don't speak a lot with foreigners (people that aren't from their particular region).