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the main problem with the brittish is that they dont have any powerhouse units, the best they got is muskets, followed by lbows. with the french this is so easy to counter, use skirms vs muskets and cannon's vs lbows. i think the germans are under rated in treaty, the only thing they really dont have is powerhouse heavy calvery, like the french gren and russian operichnick. or however you spell it. they have very nice HI:Doppels, LI: skirms, and a nice Light calvery that are basicly walking shooting houses all the way upgraded, war wagons. almost (1500 hp) INSANE

its unlikly that you will be able to beat french if they are not a french player, and are decent.

Ports often own france.  Port eco is awsome as well as dragoons, which eat france cav.  Halbs as meat sheilds and dragoons behind them do just fine.  Cassadores are now the best skirm type in the game and few horse artillary behind them are just plain evil.  Increase range on mortors allow you to get in their eco quick and keeps them out of range if you can micro them and keep them away from cav.   On games that a ton of people host on orinoco Ive out eco'd a france player as port...and not once did my eco drop.  I just kept seeing is score drop dramatically and then guess what happened...Yup, his name began flashing and finally dropped...his teammates were so damn pissed off...lol.  Ports eco and army are awsome.

no ports do not own french, instant gendarms + the 20 pop more army + good skirms aswell, you must not be that good to think that ports beat french.

swinehoot:

no ports do not own french, instant gendarms + the 20 pop more army + good skirms aswell, you must not be that good to think that ports beat french.

 

LOL...ports do and can beat france(doesnt mean always).  Instant gendarms and + 20 more pop just mean france eco dwindles down faster, and for ur info...not that it matters, I stopped playing treaty for a long time, but i was a major not that that rank is high, but I beleive i know what Im doing and what im saying when i say ports can and do (doesnt mean always) beat france.  No need to be rude swinehoot.

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ok well i was # 1 on twc at one point in time, i was #1 on tad elo at a point in time aswell, port will not beat french unless your playing a weak player who just gets his rank from french and actually has no skill. If you play some one who knows how to use army in treaty you are not going to win... Why do you think top tryit and hal9001 are up in the ladders...

if japan had a much better eco, and on Andes, don't they beat the French, or can they still not keep up, i don't know because i don't lame japan, i lame French some times, but not often.

well dutch, if they ahd a better eco they would last longer gainst french, btu french still get instant gendarmes, one of teh best skirms in the game, and really good alround army.

so i still dont think op japs would be much of a threat for op french

How can people have so much trouble with the French? Just use pikemen\halbs, or in your case, use musketeers. Have seperate armies so he can't attack in different spots. Seriously, gendarmes are super easy to kill. It's just wierd everyone thinks they can't be stopped. Spain is the real OP civ.

pikemen die way too fast... halbs do about the same hand damage to cavalry as a musket does, which makes them sort of crappy.

Stick with muskets as your meat shield and use dragoons or cav archers to back them up. That applies to pretty much every Civ. If they make skirmishers, use falconets or cavalry to take them out. Also if it's just your muskets vs. skirms send the muskets in to fight with hand attack. They'll do more damage that way.

 If you can't create units fast enough i suggest you build more barracks. Make sure you have standing Army and Mass cavalry from the Church. That's really the only choice you've got.