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  •  08-03-2008, 6:20 PM 731854 in reply to 731817
    Saladin Saladin is not online. Last active: Oct 25, 2008, 5:20 PM
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    Subject: Re: Real Canadian Military History - Care to learn the truth?
    Red-Commie:
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    Canada did play an important role in World War one, But in World War two Canada didnt contribute much, the real heros were the Americans and the Soviets and to some extent the British.

     They went deeper into france than the americans and british during the invasion of normandy. Juno beach was extremely well fortified, and the only other beach that was more heavily defended was omaha. So yes, they did contribute an important part in the second WW as well.
     

    That still dosent overweigh what the Americans, Soviets, and British did.

    "But in World War two Canada didnt contribute much"

    I was actually replying to your post...you know, the one you posted. 


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  •  08-03-2008, 6:33 PM 731859 in reply to 731834
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    Subject: Re: Real Canadian Military History - Care to learn the truth?

    The Soviets held off the largest military invansion of that time, liberated all of eastern europe and were the first ones into Germany, and Berlin with very little Allied help.

    The Americans were the ones that brought Japan down. The British, Chinese, Canadians, and Australians were fighting them earlier in the war and got their asses kicked. The Americans reinforced the British in Africa with fresh troops and supplies. They also did their part Europe and did a very good job. They also rebuilt western europe after the war.

    If America didnt enter World War 2, Japan would have taken over all of Asia. Germany would taken over most if not all of Europe and North Africa (though i think the Soviets could have beaten them alone). Also, most of Europe would have been in ruins after the war.

    Canada had minor role in ww2.


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  •  08-03-2008, 7:08 PM 731868 in reply to 731859
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    Subject: Re: Real Canadian Military History - Care to learn the truth?
    Red-Commie:
     

    Germany would taken over most if not all of Europe and North Africa

     ...

    i think the Soviets could have beaten them (Germany) alone

    Am I the only one not understanding how these two opinions are consistent? =/



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  •  08-03-2008, 7:45 PM 731893 in reply to 731748
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    Subject: Re: Real Canadian Military History - Care to learn the truth?
    Nickzilla`:

    I never knew this, but apparently, Canada had one of the biggest armies in the world after the second world war.

    Is this true? If so, how big are we talking compared to the rest of the world? 

    All I know is they had about a million during the second world war. 

    Red Commie:

    Also, most of Europe would have been in ruins after the war.

    Which it was, so clearly the USA's involvement in WWII is a lie.


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  •  08-03-2008, 7:51 PM 731895 in reply to 731859
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    Subject: Re: Real Canadian Military History - Care to learn the truth?
    Red-Commie:

    The Soviets held off the largest military invansion of that time, liberated all of eastern europe and were the first ones into Germany, and Berlin with very little Allied help.

    The Americans were the ones that brought Japan down. The British, Chinese, Canadians, and Australians were fighting them earlier in the war and got their asses kicked. The Americans reinforced the British in Africa with fresh troops and supplies. They also did their part Europe and did a very good job. They also rebuilt western europe after the war.

    If America didnt enter World War 2, Japan would have taken over all of Asia. Germany would taken over most if not all of Europe and North Africa (though i think the Soviets could have beaten them alone). Also, most of Europe would have been in ruins after the war.

    Canada had minor role in ww2.

    I don't know why you think Canada had a minor role in the War. Canadians played a huge role in WWII and souldn't be contraticted. Canadians have helped tremendously in the War which gave us great reason to be there as were for all the Allies(incl. the U.S.A and the Soviets). That's it, there is no more to debate about.



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  •  08-03-2008, 7:57 PM 731896 in reply to 731834
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    Subject: Re: Real Canadian Military History - Care to learn the truth?

    A lot of Canadian contribution in WWII was in much needed support roles. For instance Canadian shipping played a key role in keeping Britain alive during the Blitz when that country was essentially fighting alone for the political survival of all Europe and later in supporting the war effort as the allies established footholds in France and Italy and then pushed eastward and northward towards Berlin. Not to mention that Canadian and Australian produce fed Britian both during and after the war. Canadian troops also served in the Pacific Theatre where for a time it was understood that the British Commonwealth and American naval forces would essentially just try to hold Japan in check while the main war would be fought in Europe. Having a population at the time of only a little over ten million Canada fielded an army of over a million – 10%. In 1940 the US had a population approaching 140 million of whom 16 million total served – 12%. So the per capita was more-or-less equal. And neither the US nor the Russians alone could have won single-handedly against both Germany and Japan at the height of their power.

  •  08-03-2008, 9:45 PM 731916 in reply to 731748
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    Subject: Re: Real Canadian Military History - Care to learn the truth?
    Nickzilla, I believe it was the third largest in the world. (USSR = 1st, America = 2nd, Canada = 3rd?)

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  •  08-03-2008, 9:49 PM 731918 in reply to 731817
    Emp. Rommel Emp. Rommel is not online. Last active: 12-04-2008, 5:11 PM
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    Subject: Re: Real Canadian Military History - Care to learn the truth?
    Red-Commie:
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    Canada did play an important role in World War one, But in World War two Canada didnt contribute much, the real heros were the Americans and the Soviets and to some extent the British.

     They went deeper into france than the americans and british during the invasion of normandy. Juno beach was extremely well fortified, and the only other beach that was more heavily defended was omaha. So yes, they did contribute an important part in the second WW as well.
     

    That still dosent overweigh what the Americans, Soviets, and British did.

    Not true at all. by the end of the first world war, 22, 000 airmen in the RAF were canadian. Without these people during ww2, britian very likely could have fallen (especailly if you take out the EATS course canada hosted) and w/o britian, dday would have been a hell of a lot harder to launch.

     

    Also, without Canadian help, it would have taken a lot longer to create the A Bomb. A Canadian physicist found out how to make uranium go super-critical (AKA BOOOM) although sadly, he was killed years later in an accident. (He dropped his screwdriver which was holding something important, and the uranium created a huge radioactive wave, which killed him and injured most of his assistants.

     

    Not only that but consider this: in two world wars alone, both with small armies, canada lost about 135, 000 men. Consider this: of 665, 000 men in the first world war, 10% would never see home again, and in the second ww, 65, 000+ men would never come home, having made the ultimate sacrifice in the service of thier nation.

     

    And red commie, that is very very innaccurate. In the pacific front, yes, canadian troops got thier asses handed to them by the japanese. However, in europe and africa they did very well. Rommel is actually qouted as saying "Rather than birthday congradulations, I would rather a canadian tank squadron to fight for me, then I'd route the allies from africa" Or something very close to that (Come on people... I'm not an encyclopedia, cut me a break)

     

    Oh yes, and before I go further:

     I am not saying Canada won the war. Far from it. But it wasn't a minor player either. It contributed a great deal to ending both world conflicts.


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  •  08-03-2008, 10:17 PM 731923 in reply to 731701
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    Subject: Re: Real Canadian Military History - Care to learn the truth?
    Emp. Rommel:

    First off, I will dispell the main rumour about Canada's military history:  Canada was an important player in both world wars, if not a major player. (I would argue major)

    From the assault on Vimy Ridge during the first world war (a feat which a 50 year old nation achieved, but 170, 000 + french and british soldiers failed to accomplish) to the failed raid on Dieppe (in no way the Canadians' fault, it was the product of terrible planning by the british) to storming the beaches at Juno, for its part in Operation overlord, Canada contributed a huge part to bringing both wars to a close.

     Before I continue:

    IF YOU MUST BE ARROGANT AND FLAME, PLEASE DO NOT DO IT HERE.

    Also, keep in mind: The facts here are true.

    If you have questions, or comments (albeit, not flaming comments, as those are a waste of everybody's time) feel free to do so. I don't really have much to do here otherwise (I'd rather tell people what they want to know, rather than just a bunch of facts)

    Um who cares? Seriously this isnt interesting, and its totally unprovoked. I'd say this thread is spam. And, FYI the real heros were the people in Navada making the A-bomb.

    If you think canada had a good military, check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Winter_War After reading that, i gotta say, russia is dumb as hell.


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  •  08-03-2008, 10:23 PM 731925 in reply to 731923
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    Subject: Re: Real Canadian Military History - Care to learn the truth?
    Can't we all just agree that it was a group effort ?

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  •  08-03-2008, 10:40 PM 731930 in reply to 731925
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