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cam44:

Thranduil81:

They're a musk type unit, whether they are actually a musk doesn't matter. What matters is that they are all ranged heavy infantry with no bonuses at range, and anti cav bonuses in melee.

The original poster said that Brit have the best Musk.  They DO with all the upgrades (including the hitpoints from the unique church card).  Whether or not you consider them better than Jans or other similar ranged heavy infantry types is another matter.

Cam wins u guys failed to say heavy inf :p 

AoE_99:

Musketeerbrit:

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They have the best musks in the game once fully upgraded including all shipments and church upgrade.  (Well I am fairly sure they do at least correct me if I am wrong but I think they are better than otto, jap, and indian musks. If not they are cheaper so...)

Nooooooo man. Sepoys and Ashis are better but more expensive, Jans are better and cost 80 food and 20 gold after sending a card, a brit musk costs 75 food 25 gold.

cam44:

Thranduil81:

They're a musk type unit, whether they are actually a musk doesn't matter. What matters is that they are all ranged heavy infantry with no bonuses at range, and anti cav bonuses in melee.

The original poster said that Brit have the best Musk.  They DO with all the upgrades (including the hitpoints from the unique church card).  Whether or not you consider them better than Jans or other similar ranged heavy infantry types is another matter.

 hmmmmm 

than u will say

spain ski are best ski,

not walfina or forest powler(they are not ski , just smiler type of unit) 

lol, 21

dude sepoy , ashi , jan are basically musketer(can read in manual) with just another name 

ANKUR:

cam44:

Thranduil81:

They're a musk type unit, whether they are actually a musk doesn't matter. What matters is that they are all ranged heavy infantry with no bonuses at range, and anti cav bonuses in melee.

The original poster said that Brit have the best Musk.  They DO with all the upgrades (including the hitpoints from the unique church card).  Whether or not you consider them better than Jans or other similar ranged heavy infantry types is another matter.

 hmmmmm 

than u will say

spain ski are best ski,

not walfina or forest powler(they are not ski , just smiler type of unit) 

lol, 21

dude sepoy , ashi , jan are basically musketer(can read in manual) with just another name 

I don't know who has the best skirm.  But yes if a civ has royal guard skirm with upgrade cards then I would say that they 'have the best skirm' and that is not a comparison to forest prowlers, longbow, strelets or other light inf.  It means that they have the best skirms, that's all that it means ...

Katsu-S~S:

iplay brits vs otto alot and i experimented this and to my surprise brit musket army alone beat the janissaries very surprised to say the least.

then you have 75 musks vs 50 jans maybe.

And cam44 pls stop talking bs...

Well, if i compare british musk to japanese, japanese win because has higher at, higher bunus to cavalry, higher speed and perhaps can be boosted by shogun (I mean not SecretShogun) and daimio. Im not sure, but with this all he will have about 450 hp, 70 at. 

They disadvantage in comparing is they have (without boosts) less hp than musk. 

AoE_99:

Katsu-S~S:

iplay brits vs otto alot and i experimented this and to my surprise brit musket army alone beat the janissaries very surprised to say the least.

then you have 75 musks vs 50 jans maybe.

And cam44 pls stop talking bs...

Birt Huss haev 4 legs.  But rusains gots da best 4-leg huss ... dey callem orpichnicks but dey gud huss dem prichnik ... killem vils ded ... > birt huss

I said pls stop talking bs...

AoE_99:

I said pls stop talking bs...

seems to me like u got owned (I didnt read the topic tho) 

Jerom:

AoE_99:

I said pls stop talking bs...

seems to me like u got owned (I didnt read the topic tho) 

Yes, exactly. Read how I got owned.

AoE_99:

Jerom:

AoE_99:

I said pls stop talking bs...

seems to me like u got owned (I didnt read the topic tho) 

Yes, exactly. Read how I got owned.

it was excitingly boring. You argued about how when you mention musk you mean musketeer not musketeer type unit. cam was right in that aspect but imo its kewl to assume that other musk type units count aswell.

Anyways stats are overrated. 

@ cam forest powler and longbowman both are ranged light inf, but  forest powlers is ski, but long  bow is not , they are archer , they have twice the rof and cir dont upgrades archer

btw according to you british card team musketeer hp should not upgrade sepoy/ashi/jan , as they are not musketer  , but it does as they are actually cllasified as musk , just have different name like redcoat, guerreiros

@secretshogun , there is no war here , so no winning or loosing, btw ,cam said wrong,  i intentially didnt used word ranged heavy inf becoz not all ranged heavy inf are musk

gens and chakram are too ranged heavy inf but they are not musk , but sepoy , ashi and jan are musk 

and in manual they are writen actually as powerful MUSKETER , (not musketeer type unit), in fact ashigaru is writen as "ashigaru musketeer" , not just ashigaru

dont know ,where is the word ''musk type unit'' comes from, its writen nowhere

I did not quite expect such a big debate.

British musk once fully upgraded have about 405 HP and 60 or so attack. It's something like 30-40 hand attack (with arsenal upgrade) I think that latter.While Jan get 500 hp (aprox) they have a lot less attack. Against calvary I would take my Brit musk over Jans. Then again jans can build military structures so...

But that is besides the point. 

In terms of Grenadiers brit cards that increase musks also affect grenadiers and they have that card which increases siege attack by 60 %and normal damage by 20%? 15% something like that.

Longbows are actually quite good if your mix them in with musk or goons

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