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  •  05-06-2012, 8:25 PM 956357 in reply to 956355
    LordStefanIII LordStefanIII is not online. Last active: 03/07/2014, 4:07 PM
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush
    You mean the Spanish one? Its concept is largely similar.
  •  05-06-2012, 10:23 PM 956369 in reply to 956355
    pickledonion pickledonion is not online. Last active: 01-08-2014, 11:14 PM
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush

    Aoe3_Proz:
    ^_^ as if i dont know how to play aoe in other ways ^_^ look at my numerous other strategies ^_^

    Just read one other one.

     

    You do not know how to play this game optimally.  If you want to use these strategies to have fun,  that's fine.  Go ahead.  We are letting other readers know, however, that these strategies you come up with are not good to follow if they want to play in the optimal fashion (even if they are quite fun).

     

    Myself and many other players have been playing this game since it came out.  In about 6 years of the game's online play within the competitive community, we have figured everything (absolutely everything) out.  Everything has been tried.  And the game has been distilled down to such an exact science that many aspects of the game often go untouched.  Most optional cards are ignored--the best ones for each civ have already been determined.  There is no new ground to break in this game.  In a way, that's kind of sad because you've gotten here a bit late.  But if you have fun using different, sub-optimal strategies, then more power to you.  The point of a game is to have fun anyways.  Just don't frame these strategies like new players should be learning from them.  They shouldn't. 

  •  05-06-2012, 10:40 PM 956372 in reply to 956369
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush
    @ SS u said only civ that wins in 5-7min is iro, in nilla i can crush up to a cptn (only one who joins a sergs games) in 5:45 min with Otto sonora nat rush =p

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  •  05-06-2012, 11:04 PM 956373 in reply to 956372
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush
    i think the thread starter is strategicjoels' new account

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    I guess the only way Brit can beat German is they have Americans helping them.


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  •  05-06-2012, 11:15 PM 956374 in reply to 956373
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush

    I TRIED THIS STRAT BUT:

    I lost because i had zero economy

    I lost because of TC fire

    I lost because this strat is complete ballz

    I am a captain in sup soo if u wanna test this strat vs me then suuure go ahead. Captain rank means you understand the basics but you aren't really that good...

    Most games go 10+ minutes, so if you want to learn how to play in that time span then get to that time span. If your opponent fully expects this or goes even slightly defensive then your economy cannot recover from the rush. And, 10 wp is op. Idk why you wouldn't try get it EVERY game rather than trying to do a super fast sucky rush. Just ain't gonna work.

  •  05-07-2012, 6:43 AM 956397 in reply to 956357
    Aoe3_Proz Aoe3_Proz is not online. Last active: 05-09-2012, 7:23 AM
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush
    Ah, people like you always harassing users who actually post strategies.  I posted a Port FF, Ottoman Revolt, Spanish Rushm, and this and more coming. 

  •  05-07-2012, 7:14 AM 956398 in reply to 956397
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush

    Aoe3_Proz:
    Ah, people like you always harassing users who actually post strategies.  I posted a Port FF, Ottoman Revolt, Spanish Rushm, and this and more coming. 

    or maybe he actually knows what he is talking about (and unfortunately for you I can confirm that) 


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  •  05-07-2012, 11:31 AM 956432 in reply to 956372
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush
    zorc17:
    @ SS u said only civ that wins in 5-7min is iro, in nilla i can crush up to a cptn (only one who joins a sergs games) in 5:45 min with Otto sonora nat rush =p
    aztec refers to tad so yours doesnt count ;D

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  •  05-07-2012, 11:53 AM 956436 in reply to 956346
    Jerom Jerom is not online. Last active: 28 Dec 2013, 7:18 PM
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush
    LordStefanIII:

    Aoe3_Proz:
    I know sergs dont know to play... thats why I compared you to one if you can only get 5 uhlan 8 xbow and 6 MM in 5:30...  ive faced ppl with 20 LB 3 hus 6 MM at 5:30... and won.

    5 uhlan 8 bow and 6 mm is with a eco build/semi ff where you send the 8 bows if being rushed.. Of course you can get more if you're doing a pointless little rush.

    Rushing with aztecs and sending unit cards asap has been known for along time. They have much better warrior priest builds which are much better in different situations, and can transition into many builds as well. Rushing is so overrated.

    on RE Aztec should rush imo. I like to send 10 maces ASAP to contain my opponent and then boom it up afterwards.


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  •  05-07-2012, 1:21 PM 956447 in reply to 956436
    LordStefanIII LordStefanIII is not online. Last active: 03/07/2014, 4:07 PM
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush
    You think? Imo sending the 3 then putting them on xp dance then spaming the shipments is better. In addition to the fact that if you fast age up you can have the 3 wp out by the time your opponent ages and your unit shipment already coming.
  •  05-07-2012, 1:39 PM 956449 in reply to 956447
    Jerom Jerom is not online. Last active: 28 Dec 2013, 7:18 PM
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush

    LordStefanIII:
    You think? Imo sending the 3 then putting them on xp dance then spaming the shipments is better. In addition to the fact that if you fast age up you can have the 3 wp out by the time your opponent ages and your unit shipment already coming.

    If you ship the maces you have them in your opponents base before he has anyhting. You can force him to garrison his units, get a perfect scout, kill a vill or 2, force him to call minutemen. If you ship wp then units you get slightly more XP but not this economical advantage.

    It just delays your opponent with enough easily. 


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  •  05-07-2012, 2:47 PM 956456 in reply to 956449
    LordStefanIII LordStefanIII is not online. Last active: 03/07/2014, 4:07 PM
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush

    How would you get an economical advantage with aztecs then? 5 vill right away?

    3 wp can be an economical advantage  or a military advantage, it depends on what you send after the 3 wp, be it maces or vills. Plus if you fast age then send 10 maces + try to get sufficient housing + a warhut you need to skip the firepit and market and build 2 houses with your starting wood. Which is just gross cause you got an idle warpriest and no firepit.

    The only other way you can ship 10 maces first is if you age with the warhut and throw up a market and firepit + 3-4 houses.

  •  05-07-2012, 4:45 PM 956462 in reply to 956354
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush

    pickledonion:
    Who plays TWC anymore?

    +1

    and your spain strategy works with other civs just as well, it just sucks though enemy can keep popping villagers into tc and your army dies... etc


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  •  05-07-2012, 5:05 PM 956464 in reply to 956462
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush
    lol jerom u cant just say fast age with 10 mace in general, bc it differs against many civs.  You should never do that vs iro german france otto or sioux. The rest it might be good for early harrass.

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  •  05-08-2012, 9:30 AM 956497 in reply to 956464
    Jerom Jerom is not online. Last active: 28 Dec 2013, 7:18 PM
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    Subject: Re: Aztec "ZAP" Rush

    SecretShogun:
    lol jerom u cant just say fast age with 10 mace in general, bc it differs against many civs.  You should never do that vs iro german france otto or sioux. The rest it might be good for early harrass.

    I think it can prolly work against France, prolly sioux aswell (if they didnt fast age up), it shouldnt be too bad against Germany and otto either. And vs iro there is nothing left to do. Its not that I can confirm this but I dont see many reasons for it to not work at all.

     O btw u only need 1 extra house so you can just go firepit anyways.


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