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  •  08-11-2012, 3:24 AM 964528 in reply to 964527
    Imperial Redcoat Imperial Redcoat is not online. Last active: 03-03-2013, 7:41 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony
    Milky__:

    This is treaty

    you don't upgrade cav against aztec

    Dude. I know it's treaty. You still upgrade cossacks and aztecs still suck. Musk, strelet/cannon with cossack flank beat aztec no matter what age it is.

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  •  08-11-2012, 4:12 AM 964530 in reply to 964528
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony
    Idk about you but I wouldn't make cav against ERK
  •  08-11-2012, 4:47 AM 964531 in reply to 964530
    Imperial Redcoat Imperial Redcoat is not online. Last active: 03-03-2013, 7:41 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony
    lol what do u take me for mang? average noob poster? 

    Obviously you do not use cavalry vs dragoon(erk), if they are spamming erk u spam light inf(i.e strelet). 

    Yes, I know strelet suck, are pop inefficient, but it doesnt matter when you can wall off, control the whole map with oPRICKniks and just mort their town and cossack their AK spamming asses into oblivion.

    BTW though i don' often use the noob civs. So practically, with equal skilled players, I can't really say to be 100% sure. I just know that when it's an equally skilled MU(player wise) anyone playing azzies is going to switch cause I never use azzies. I'd rather use ottomans.

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  •  08-11-2012, 7:20 AM 964535 in reply to 964531
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony

    I think we have found that in fact skirms dont properly counter erks.

    But you just said flank them with cossack... i don't really know when there isn't a time that the aztec doesn't have atleast one anti cav unit comp out

    I don't have much experience in this MU, but I don't think strelets will do the job. I don't think muskets will live up to their expectation either. The point of using musk is a meatshield/bruiser protecting the skirms who are supposed to pelt the ERKs from behind. this is why the standard counter to aztec is 20% musk 80% skirm.

    Now, take Strelets which have even less range than ERKs, and musks which have significantly less HP than  ERKs. I don't see how cossacks can even touch a mostly ERK army, which is what the aztec will have, along with some mace to rip the musk

    Russia will lose heads up to aztec, but that is not their strength

  •  08-11-2012, 9:02 AM 964538 in reply to 964531
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony
    Imperial Redcoat:
    lol what do u take me for mang? average noob poster? 

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  •  08-11-2012, 10:06 AM 964545 in reply to 964538
    LordStefanIII LordStefanIII is not online. Last active: 03/07/2014, 4:07 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony

    Erk rof 1.5

    Skirm rof 3.0 x 2 vs erk

    Relatively close stats. Only reason skirms win is their range and cost. Strelets will get wrecked.

  •  08-11-2012, 11:10 AM 964556 in reply to 964545
    Metis Metis is not online. Last active: Thu, Dec 26 2013, 1:38 AM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony

    I was just playing around with 10 unit v 10 unit battles in the Scenario Editor. No wonder I alway had trouble with ERKs when I was using skirms!  ERKs often beat skirms, even when the skirms are microed. Conversely, halberds and even lowly pikemen will beat ERKs. Musketeers seem to be the best though as they have both ranged and hand attack. Musketeers simply own ERKs if you run them into the ERK formation.

     

  •  08-11-2012, 1:30 PM 964564 in reply to 964556
    The Cleaner The Cleaner is not online. Last active: Mon, Dec 23 2013, 1:53 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony

    The only way russia has a chance in heads up vs aztec is with halb/musket combo and lots of cannon/culv.  You can mix in strelet, maybe....  Obviously, outside heads up you move to a more traditional russian style.


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  •  08-11-2012, 2:29 PM 964567 in reply to 964564
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony
    The Cleaner:

    The only way russia has a chance in heads up vs aztec is with halb/musket combo and lots of cannon/culv.  You can mix in strelet, maybe....  Obviously, outside heads up you move to a more traditional russian style.

     

    Hell no cannons are useless against aztec. 

     

    russia just don't have a chance vs aztecs in headsup its fact.


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  •  08-11-2012, 6:22 PM 964581 in reply to 964567
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony
    Magnam:
    The Cleaner:

    The only way russia has a chance in heads up vs aztec is with halb/musket combo and lots of cannon/culv.  You can mix in strelet, maybe....  Obviously, outside heads up you move to a more traditional russian style.

     

    Hell no cannons are useless against aztec. 

     

    russia just don't have a chance vs aztecs in headsup its fact.

    That's what I'm thinking.

    I don't see any combo from russia that could beat ERK and AK. Straight up. Halbs maybe but remember these are russian halbs. ERK would destroy them. Cannons are useless due to AK. Strelets will get completely decimated by ERK, erk just have the better stats, even with the 2x vs them.

    Imagine the first fight in a 1v1. Sure russia could fort up the map, if they tried to get into base by starting with opri then wall dance it is, with 41 skull knights already at Russia's factories.

    In this MU I think Russia would have to hop a lot with forts, but I am unsure whether they could pull a win.

  •  08-11-2012, 8:44 PM 964594 in reply to 964505
    TacticalWillie TacticalWillie is not online. Last active: 12-26-2013, 9:58 AM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony
    skhsri:

    China can beat many civs with their op chukonus AND they get consulate units: anticav (doppelsoldner) these will shred otto hussar while chukonu's kill abus guns, hussars to kill abus from brit, falconets as well....

    Also, sure russia might make strelet then again, they can run around making forts and orpi-spamming till you run out of coin also, blockhouse cannon is another thing that wrecks aztecs.

    if ur worried about stealthed units(Jags, coyote), send in one or two spy's as a euro civ to scout out(good LOS and can see stealth). Don't make spy-box it only works against tactical willie & conscripts, he's afraid of it and pested me, or he's never online. <------ use spies ONLY if explorer is busy they take 2 population space use them wisely.

    Well I am retired from playing Nilla I have never lost a game there, I'm like the ÐicsV of Nilla. I am just rarely online, your not pested. TAD is somewhat competitive, but there is really nobody that can come close to overpowering me, I rush faster with Ports then a lvl 35+ using iro.


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  •  08-12-2012, 1:30 AM 964628 in reply to 964594
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    I think TacticalWillie is the best player in the game.
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