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stefnap:

you need to immediately stop your life-partner from using your bodily orifices intended for excretion for his own s3xyall gratification.

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The most proper way to beat him is Ottoman Fast Colonial Grenadiers. I will briefly lay out the course for what you need for this strategy.

Let me explain a common mistake most people make when using Ottoman: AbusGuns. They are a major mistake and most people don't realize the folly of using Abus Guns, as they are not cost effective at all, they have horrible hp and they have awful siege attack not to mention a extremely low hand attack.

Step one: All villagers go on food, make a market, house, or Church with the wood you have (perferrbly a trading post but if that is not available just make the stuff above.

Step two: once you gather the 800 food advance ASAP, this is why its a FC strategy we do not want to Militia fight with him this strategy we want to out boom him to colonial age.

Step three: Do the market upgrades as you age up, as well as gather 200 wood

Step four: age to Colonial send the 700 wood card and the 5 jan card.

Step five: gather the wood and make a Artillary Foundery and a Barracks.

Step Six: make 5 Grenadiers and 5 more Jans.

Step Seven: have quickly strike at his base, at the same time que up another 5 Grenadiers.

The Grenadier is far better then an Abus Gun and is way more useful only disadvantage is its slower first shot. Here is the stats for the Grenadier Vs. Abus Gun.

Grenadier=G. Abus Gun=A   Jan=J

Hp                Range Resistance          Attack     Siege Sweep attack Cost of Food/Gold

G=200            50%                              16              54         3 sweep                120/60

A=130            20%                               40             15         0  sweep            50/100  

J=235            20Hand resist                20                          0 sweep                   100/25

As you can see a Jan/Grenadier combo is much better then a Jan/Abus as you can make far more mass

Add to the fact that the Grenadier pwns buildings. This strategy is how to win the game every game.

TacticalWillie:

The most proper way to beat him is Ottoman Fast Colonial Grenadiers. I will briefly lay out the course for what you need for this strategy.

Let me explain a common mistake most people make when using Ottoman: AbusGuns. They are a major mistake and most people don't realize the folly of using Abus Guns, as they are not cost effective at all, they have horrible hp and they have awful siege attack not to mention a extremely low hand attack.

Step one: All villagers go on food, make a market, house, or Church with the wood you have (perferrbly a trading post but if that is not available just make the stuff above.

Step two: once you gather the 800 food advance ASAP, this is why its a FC strategy we do not want to Militia fight with him this strategy we want to out boom him to colonial age.

Step three: Do the market upgrades as you age up, as well as gather 200 wood

Step four: age to Colonial send the 700 wood card and the 5 jan card.

Step five: gather the wood and make a Artillary Foundery and a Barracks.

Step Six: make 5 Grenadiers and 5 more Jans.

Step Seven: have quickly strike at his base, at the same time que up another 5 Grenadiers.

The Grenadier is far better then an Abus Gun and is way more useful only disadvantage is its slower first shot. Here is the stats for the Grenadier Vs. Abus Gun.

Grenadier=G. Abus Gun=A   Jan=J

Hp                Range Resistance          Attack     Siege Sweep attack Cost of Food/Gold

G=200            50%                              16              54         3 sweep                120/60

A=130            20%                               40             15         0  sweep            50/100  

J=235            20Hand resist                20                          0 sweep                   100/25

As you can see a Jan/Grenadier combo is much better then a Jan/Abus as you can make far more mass

Add to the fact that the Grenadier pwns buildings. This strategy is how to win the game every game.

                                                                                   

need i say more mehn?

+1 :) ahhh willly me loves ya

Masinkov_:

LordStefanIII:

stefnap? Wtf is that?

this is the name i gave to you. enjoy.

but if you need some help: nap and noob same meaning.  

samirtobias:

TacticalWillie:

The most proper way to beat him is Ottoman Fast Colonial Grenadiers. I will briefly lay out the course for what you need for this strategy.

Let me explain a common mistake most people make when using Ottoman: AbusGuns. They are a major mistake and most people don't realize the folly of using Abus Guns, as they are not cost effective at all, they have horrible hp and they have awful siege attack not to mention a extremely low hand attack.

Step one: All villagers go on food, make a market, house, or Church with the wood you have (perferrbly a trading post but if that is not available just make the stuff above.

Step two: once you gather the 800 food advance ASAP, this is why its a FC strategy we do not want to Militia fight with him this strategy we want to out boom him to colonial age.

Step three: Do the market upgrades as you age up, as well as gather 200 wood

Step four: age to Colonial send the 700 wood card and the 5 jan card.

Step five: gather the wood and make a Artillary Foundery and a Barracks.

Step Six: make 5 Grenadiers and 5 more Jans.

Step Seven: have quickly strike at his base, at the same time que up another 5 Grenadiers.

The Grenadier is far better then an Abus Gun and is way more useful only disadvantage is its slower first shot. Here is the stats for the Grenadier Vs. Abus Gun.

Grenadier=G. Abus Gun=A   Jan=J

Hp                Range Resistance          Attack     Siege Sweep attack Cost of Food/Gold

G=200            50%                              16              54         3 sweep                120/60

A=130            20%                               40             15         0  sweep            50/100  

J=235            20Hand resist                20                          0 sweep                   100/25

As you can see a Jan/Grenadier combo is much better then a Jan/Abus as you can make far more mass

Add to the fact that the Grenadier pwns buildings. This strategy is how to win the game every game.

                                                                                   

need i say more mehn?

+1 :) ahhh willly me loves ya

Actually I was excepting your response to be like a girl that sees Justin Bieber, and starts screaming "OH MY BABY BABY BABY" *faints*...in your case I'm asuming you will be screaming "OH MY OP OP OP OP YEAH BABY OP!!!!" *faint*

TacticalWillie:

The most proper way to beat him is Ottoman Fast Colonial Grenadiers. I will briefly lay out the course for what you need for this strategy.

Let me explain a common mistake most people make when using Ottoman: AbusGuns. They are a major mistake and most people don't realize the folly of using Abus Guns, as they are not cost effective at all, they have horrible hp and they have awful siege attack not to mention a extremely low hand attack.

Step one: All villagers go on food, make a market, house, or Church with the wood you have (perferrbly a trading post but if that is not available just make the stuff above.

Step two: once you gather the 800 food advance ASAP, this is why its a FC strategy we do not want to Militia fight with him this strategy we want to out boom him to colonial age.

Step three: Do the market upgrades as you age up, as well as gather 200 wood

Step four: age to Colonial send the 700 wood card and the 5 jan card.

Step five: gather the wood and make a Artillary Foundery and a Barracks.

Step Six: make 5 Grenadiers and 5 more Jans.

Step Seven: have quickly strike at his base, at the same time que up another 5 Grenadiers.

The Grenadier is far better then an Abus Gun and is way more useful only disadvantage is its slower first shot. Here is the stats for the Grenadier Vs. Abus Gun.

Grenadier=G. Abus Gun=A   Jan=J

Hp                Range Resistance          Attack     Siege Sweep attack Cost of Food/Gold

G=200            50%                              16              54         3 sweep                120/60

A=130            20%                               40             15         0  sweep            50/100  

J=235            20Hand resist                20                          0 sweep                   100/25

As you can see a Jan/Grenadier combo is much better then a Jan/Abus as you can make far more mass

Add to the fact that the Grenadier pwns buildings. This strategy is how to win the game every game.

                                                                                   

Willie this is the most OP strategy you have come up with this beats even britain grenadier rush!!!! otto grenadier get attack and hp scards in age 2 this so OP!!!!
OPOPOP YEAAA OP *passes out from yelling*

Btw: willie check your messages

Are you a gambling man, sir? Assuming your opponent goes all-in with his musketeer rush, assemble whatever military units you have (crossbowmen, pikes, I'm assuming) away from your base, and near your opponent's, out of his line of sight and wait for him to attack. The moment he fires a single shot, destroy his barracks to prevent reinforcements and wreak havoc. Then it will simply be a matter of who gets to destroy whose base first. With Pikemen having bonus damage vs buildings, I believe this strategy can be at least considered. 

skhsri:

TacticalWillie:

The most proper way to beat him is Ottoman Fast Colonial Grenadiers. I will briefly lay out the course for what you need for this strategy.

Let me explain a common mistake most people make when using Ottoman: AbusGuns. They are a major mistake and most people don't realize the folly of using Abus Guns, as they are not cost effective at all, they have horrible hp and they have awful siege attack not to mention a extremely low hand attack.

Step one: All villagers go on food, make a market, house, or Church with the wood you have (perferrbly a trading post but if that is not available just make the stuff above.

Step two: once you gather the 800 food advance ASAP, this is why its a FC strategy we do not want to Militia fight with him this strategy we want to out boom him to colonial age.

Step three: Do the market upgrades as you age up, as well as gather 200 wood

Step four: age to Colonial send the 700 wood card and the 5 jan card.

Step five: gather the wood and make a Artillary Foundery and a Barracks.

Step Six: make 5 Grenadiers and 5 more Jans.

Step Seven: have quickly strike at his base, at the same time que up another 5 Grenadiers.

The Grenadier is far better then an Abus Gun and is way more useful only disadvantage is its slower first shot. Here is the stats for the Grenadier Vs. Abus Gun.

Grenadier=G. Abus Gun=A   Jan=J

Hp                Range Resistance          Attack     Siege Sweep attack Cost of Food/Gold

G=200            50%                              16              54         3 sweep                120/60

A=130            20%                               40             15         0  sweep            50/100  

J=235            20Hand resist                20                          0 sweep                   100/25

As you can see a Jan/Grenadier combo is much better then a Jan/Abus as you can make far more mass

Add to the fact that the Grenadier pwns buildings. This strategy is how to win the game every game.

                                                                                   

Willie this is the most OP strategy you have come up with this beats even britain grenadier rush!!!! otto grenadier get attack and hp scards in age 2 this so OP!!!!
OPOPOP YEAAA OP *passes out from yelling*

Btw: willie check your messages

Major quote tunneling here. I am going right now to check my messages

LordStefanIII:

eeyu:

PORT

GTFO, I CAN FLAME U CAUSE NO ONE KNOWS WHO U AR, NOB.

don't they? 

donaldsimons:

Well so far I like Stefan's ideas with Britain and Russia. Tactical Willie - in unsure whether or not the ottoman grenadier would work. I tried it against CPU and it seemed slow. But that. Could be me using wrong build order. And bin rusty with ottomans 

Well I outlined that OP build order very well for you, you should have no problem preforming FC Grenadier rush with Ottoman. It is much better then gs and Stefan build orders

LordStefanIII:

Nope, except for maybe you, metis, anyone from around 2009, and some people smart enough (and who care enough) to connect his TRT forum name with this one.

I remember when some people made the connection... 

They were all like

"ERMAHGERD 1v1v1v1 I beat you I remember!!11!!!!!!1!!"