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Your kidding me right matt? RR are in no way OP. They do extra damage to HI... peeshaw therye good vs hand infantry and thats it, they do a very low base damage and its only x3 to inf, which means that its about a total of 35, which can be matched by muskets. People like you complaining caused india to become OP, they just dont use them right, and like them, you didnt use counters right. Any skirmishers at all would have won it easily for u.

Fedayeen_Hagop:

Nederlandse Nemesis:

I played a treaty game the other day, and I noticed that my Sioux enemy was just massing Rifle Riders, and never did anything else. I trained doppels and war wagons in massive numbers, but they always won, so I looked at their stats and, wtf? They all had 550 hitpoints, and altough he was doing an attack dance with 25 villies, without the dance it had 36 attack, and X3 vs Infantry and Cavalry, and X7 against artillery! What the hell is meant to beat them? Seriously, these are more OP than friggin Cuirassiers, which i dealt with easily from another french enemy.

Heres some suggestions to balance them. Since they already have Bow Riders for anticav, just remove the bonus against cav and they would become balanced again. Or make them 3pop and more expensive. Alternatively, give each cav unit a build limit of 25, which would encourage some variety (this could be done for all civs to avoid balancing issues, or am I just an idiot). Just do something! If the Sioux mass Rifle Riders, and Russians fort hop and mass mortars, theres no hope for any of us.

 

well matt i can already see your mistake you said that you massed dopples and war wagons....the rifle rider is an anti cav unit and skirms get a bonus against them why didnt you just mass needle gunners? ya the rifle rider is really strong try having a teepee fb right by them they pwn like no other but since he didnt have teepees id just mass needle gunners with a few doppels just incase they send cav after the needle gunners and if they have teepees id use mortars with a doppel+skirm meatshield (skirm for just incase they send rifle riders)....hope i helped =] 

To Hanzo, please note that whoever dug this up found it was from four months ago, and I started playing 5 months ago. RRs are no longer OP imo, I can beat them easily with my Brits or even my Dutch.