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ummmmmm lol. My aztecs are complete cr4p but I'll put forward Fuher's aztecs vs your otto..... Otto literally cannot win that MU. That is how bad otto is. You cannot contain coyote like most other civs can, your cav archer get destroyed by ERK and abus are just outmassed.

 EDIT: Also, Aztec eco > Otto eco by faaaar lmao. 

In 1v1 aztec could probably win in 2 mins lol.....  

im still not sure.. but, isnt good to astec go box, otherwise u lost map control and cant recover it from oto.

I remeber a game with pronton (astec) vs me (oto). He get inside, take factorys, but lost map control and wasnt able to recover.

The best way to fight vs oto is heads up, so u can push fast and he cant build anywhere.

Hapened with me (oto) vs wiplash (astec).

Astec just need to wall fast the flanks.

Edit: my astec is worst, try vs caleb astec. 21

Milky__:

Tomasl:

Milky__:

LordStefanIII:

Thranduil81:

EDIT: Oh and forgot, abus have a .5 vs erks (LI) instead of the 2 of a regular skirm (their bonus is .75 vs coyote and 2 vs erk specifically) 

You know, I had no clue that skirms have a x2 attack vs ERK until recently. And yeah Abus multiplier is low, which could be why they're not so good vs Aztecs.

Mind you they do more damage to HI/goon than any other skirm lol...

But yeah, a good aztec will destroy a good ottoman. Otto just don't have the mass as their skirms cost two pop. Art is useless vs aztec, jan get done by jags, ERK massed is like having a huge mass of skirms, but better because of the ERK ROF. None of Otto's combo can beat 80% ERK 20% Coyote. Mix in some jags and AK, Otto are sitting ducks.

As steffy said, play the MU vs people other than tsnoe or stonecold who have decent aztec/otto understanding before you claim something. 

assuming u mean on andes as only map u play for treaty, u are not taking into account how *** aztec eco is. if u want to try 1v1 me ottos vs ur aztecs i will beat u off my face while chain smoking 

edit: tsnoe dont remember losing vs him but he at least puts up decent fight stonecold  - massive lamer loses vs pretty much anyone face up (massive box fan- lames with french russia or japs surprised he hasnt taken to sioux like tomgr) 

ummmmmm lol. My aztecs are complete cr4p but I'll put forward Fuher's aztecs vs your otto..... Otto literally cannot win that MU. That is how bad otto is. You cannot contain coyote like most other civs can, your cav archer get destroyed by ERK and abus are just outmassed.

 EDIT: Also, Aztec eco > Otto eco by faaaar lmao. 

In 1v1 aztec could probably win in 2 mins lol.....  

maybe they can get near otto eco if u put all vills on food but then u fooked, their nub starting box moves so slow hard not to stop. 

ottos got the option of deleting vills especially vs aztec because of better eco so again dunno how u would get outmassed vs aztecs 90 pop army

Tomasl:

Milky__:

Tomasl:

Milky__:

LordStefanIII:

Thranduil81:

EDIT: Oh and forgot, abus have a .5 vs erks (LI) instead of the 2 of a regular skirm (their bonus is .75 vs coyote and 2 vs erk specifically) 

You know, I had no clue that skirms have a x2 attack vs ERK until recently. And yeah Abus multiplier is low, which could be why they're not so good vs Aztecs.

Mind you they do more damage to HI/goon than any other skirm lol...

But yeah, a good aztec will destroy a good ottoman. Otto just don't have the mass as their skirms cost two pop. Art is useless vs aztec, jan get done by jags, ERK massed is like having a huge mass of skirms, but better because of the ERK ROF. None of Otto's combo can beat 80% ERK 20% Coyote. Mix in some jags and AK, Otto are sitting ducks.

As steffy said, play the MU vs people other than tsnoe or stonecold who have decent aztec/otto understanding before you claim something. 

assuming u mean on andes as only map u play for treaty, u are not taking into account how *** aztec eco is. if u want to try 1v1 me ottos vs ur aztecs i will beat u off my face while chain smoking 

edit: tsnoe dont remember losing vs him but he at least puts up decent fight stonecold  - massive lamer loses vs pretty much anyone face up (massive box fan- lames with french russia or japs surprised he hasnt taken to sioux like tomgr) 

ummmmmm lol. My aztecs are complete cr4p but I'll put forward Fuher's aztecs vs your otto..... Otto literally cannot win that MU. That is how bad otto is. You cannot contain coyote like most other civs can, your cav archer get destroyed by ERK and abus are just outmassed.

 EDIT: Also, Aztec eco > Otto eco by faaaar lmao. 

In 1v1 aztec could probably win in 2 mins lol.....  

maybe they can get near otto eco if u put all vills on food but then u fooked, their nub starting box moves so slow hard not to stop. 

ottos got the option of deleting vills especially vs aztec because of better eco so again dunno how u would get outmassed vs aztecs 90 pop army

Did u say otto have the better eco? 

jayve98:

Tomasl:

Milky__:

Tomasl:

Milky__:

LordStefanIII:

Thranduil81:

EDIT: Oh and forgot, abus have a .5 vs erks (LI) instead of the 2 of a regular skirm (their bonus is .75 vs coyote and 2 vs erk specifically) 

You know, I had no clue that skirms have a x2 attack vs ERK until recently. And yeah Abus multiplier is low, which could be why they're not so good vs Aztecs.

Mind you they do more damage to HI/goon than any other skirm lol...

But yeah, a good aztec will destroy a good ottoman. Otto just don't have the mass as their skirms cost two pop. Art is useless vs aztec, jan get done by jags, ERK massed is like having a huge mass of skirms, but better because of the ERK ROF. None of Otto's combo can beat 80% ERK 20% Coyote. Mix in some jags and AK, Otto are sitting ducks.

As steffy said, play the MU vs people other than tsnoe or stonecold who have decent aztec/otto understanding before you claim something. 

assuming u mean on andes as only map u play for treaty, u are not taking into account how *** aztec eco is. if u want to try 1v1 me ottos vs ur aztecs i will beat u off my face while chain smoking 

edit: tsnoe dont remember losing vs him but he at least puts up decent fight stonecold  - massive lamer loses vs pretty much anyone face up (massive box fan- lames with french russia or japs surprised he hasnt taken to sioux like tomgr) 

ummmmmm lol. My aztecs are complete cr4p but I'll put forward Fuher's aztecs vs your otto..... Otto literally cannot win that MU. That is how bad otto is. You cannot contain coyote like most other civs can, your cav archer get destroyed by ERK and abus are just outmassed.

 EDIT: Also, Aztec eco > Otto eco by faaaar lmao. 

In 1v1 aztec could probably win in 2 mins lol.....  

maybe they can get near otto eco if u put all vills on food but then u fooked, their nub starting box moves so slow hard not to stop. 

ottos got the option of deleting vills especially vs aztec because of better eco so again dunno how u would get outmassed vs aztecs 90 pop army

Did u say otto have the better eco? 

easily aztecs have deceptively higher points due to large starting army but actual res gathered are lower

 This thread is very amusing.

Everything Tomasl has said is irrelevant. Just like the last time he made a OP list for TR, which had Sioux at the top and Japan at the bottom.

@ Tomasl

1. Aztec eco is better than Ottomans before and after 40 mins. Because with any native civ their scores are lower, while their actual res is higher. This is because they have more abundance of resourses with less spent on upgrades. In addition with the 1000 crate coin card after 40, which is the same as having 4 vills gathering off British cows, since you would put 3 az vills on the crates, and crates gather at 8.00 a second, and British cows are at 6.00 a second.

2. You should seriously grow up. You come on here and act like a 14 yr old in midst puberty. It's sick cause you're probably a grown man. Srs, get a life.

3. I like how you go out on a limb and try to insult LordStefanIII for no reason. You should listen to him, he knows a lot about this game. I'm sure he will accept a 1 vs 1 against you. If not you could ask Caleb, hes usually on his Ombarb account.

I would accept a 1 vs 1 against you. My eso is Athoss if you want to play.

TheKillerClown_Sucks:

 This thread is very amusing.

Everything Tomasl has said is irrelevant. Just like the last time he made a OP list for TR, which had Sioux at the top and Japan at the bottom.

@ Tomasl

1. Aztec eco is better than Ottomans before and after 40 mins. Because with any native civ their scores are lower, while their actual res is higher. This is because they have more abundance of resourses with less spent on upgrades. In addition with the 1000 crate coin card after 40, which is the same as having 4 vills gathering off British cows, since you would put 3 az vills on the crates, and crates gather at 8.00 a second, and British cows are at 6.00 a second.

2. You should seriously grow up. You come on here and act like a 14 yr old in midst puberty. It's sick cause you're probably a grown man. Srs, get a life.

3. I like how you go out on a limb and try to insult LordStefanIII for no reason. You should listen to him, he knows a lot about this game. I'm sure he will accept a 1 vs 1 against you. If not you could ask Caleb, hes usually on his Ombarb account.

I would accept a 1 vs 1 against you. My eso is Athoss if you want to play.

lol stef on another of his many accounts?

me ottos u aztec? 2min game in my favour

Tomasl:

TheKillerClown_Sucks:

 This thread is very amusing.

Everything Tomasl has said is irrelevant. Just like the last time he made a OP list for TR, which had Sioux at the top and Japan at the bottom.

@ Tomasl

1. Aztec eco is better than Ottomans before and after 40 mins. Because with any native civ their scores are lower, while their actual res is higher. This is because they have more abundance of resourses with less spent on upgrades. In addition with the 1000 crate coin card after 40, which is the same as having 4 vills gathering off British cows, since you would put 3 az vills on the crates, and crates gather at 8.00 a second, and British cows are at 6.00 a second.

2. You should seriously grow up. You come on here and act like a 14 yr old in midst puberty. It's sick cause you're probably a grown man. Srs, get a life.

3. I like how you go out on a limb and try to insult LordStefanIII for no reason. You should listen to him, he knows a lot about this game. I'm sure he will accept a 1 vs 1 against you. If not you could ask Caleb, hes usually on his Ombarb account.

I would accept a 1 vs 1 against you. My eso is Athoss if you want to play.

lol stef on another of his many accounts?

me ottos u aztec? 2min game in my favour

funny how it takes u 30+ mins to reply and how u use a dif account

and i am the man child lol

may be i m wrony but dont macs with war dance(with 10wp) beat most other li(ski type unit) cost effectively(vs) ?

maces cost way too much wood to use them permanently.

1. stop making quotes from 6+ posts please, thats just annoying -.-

2. id like to see a game where a aztec wins against a otto (not in the first 5 min). id like to play vs any aztec with ottos, should be easy game i think lol. if you dont think so, prove the opposite please!

i actually think tomasl is right guys! 21

Chrissl:

i actually think tomasl is right guys! 21

No, not with the aspect that Otto's eco is better than Aztec's!

benbutler:

i know how to use aztec pretty well, especially considering i beat praetorian with them. (yes, THE praetorian. if you dont believe me, check my elo: mariusvanroos is praetorian. and i have screens proving its praetorian too)

Who cares about Pretorian, however you just play vs noobs.

1. That was sup. If you did anything besides crow about beating Praetorian you'd know this was a treaty thread.

2. The last time you beat anyone higher than lance corp on TAD was 3 months and 6 pages of games ago. And please don't tell me who you beat on TWC, the quality of play there is laughably bad compared to TAD