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  •  07-28-2012, 7:44 PM 963298 in reply to 963248
    Taunty Taunty is not online. Last active: 10-07-2013, 5:36 PM
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    Subject: Re: auntie halbirdies
    Vranak:

    Halberdiers are pretty well the stock unit to go with in Age IV and V as Dutch, since they can stand up to close-quarters combat better than any other unit, and if you win the battle they have good siege when it comes to leveling some buildings.

     They do get creamed by Cuisassiers though (and similarly strong heavy cav), so you've got to use Pikes against those.They have a x2 bonus against horsemen and they get butchered by the splash damage, while pikes are a whopping x5 and can take down the dreaded Gendarmes before they can do much damage.

     

    So to beat Halberds I'd go with cannonfire, or hit-and-run with skirmishers or longbowmen. If you use light infantry they'll get hammered if the Halberds close ranks. And as I said Cuirassiers chew through them in no time.

    What??? I'm pretty sure it's the other way around......

    Unless its 3 cuirs vs 3 halbs ....

    If ur enemy uses halbs then he's either using it as a cannon meat shield or he's a noob. The only point halbs should come in use is as a meatshield for the skirms. In treaty, u shouldn't use it at all. 


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  •  07-29-2012, 2:02 AM 963322 in reply to 963298
    Vranak Vranak is not online. Last active: 09-05-2012, 12:07 PM
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    Subject: Re: auntie halbirdies
    Yeah my tests ran against the computer, but when I put Pikeman against Gendarmes against a pro player they got slaughtered. Not sure what the difference was. His Gendarmes were at the highest level and my Pikes were not.
  •  07-29-2012, 2:35 AM 963323 in reply to 963322
    Thranduil81 Thranduil81 is not online. Last active: 05-25-2013, 6:43 AM
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    Subject: Re: anti halberds

    Halbs do alright vs cav on a cost basis. Not great, but decent. Their weakness is that they are terrible vs skirms/cannon, and have to get into melee to do anything (and aren't very fast)

    To beat gendarmes as dutch you use halbs/walls to protect your ruyters which do good damage but die very fast one melee starts. It's still not going to work if the player is good enough to know how to use skirms, but it's better than trying to use all halbs (or worse pikes, which are awful units anytime after age 3, and aren't very good even then)

  •  07-29-2012, 3:21 AM 963324 in reply to 960202
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: anti halbriders
    TacticalWillie:

    J McMillin:
    but you should be using church card which slows them down a bit and card makes them not as good against inf

    Dutch already have a bad eco your not going to save it, by having better halbs your able to save your men (by not having to replace them every 30 seconds) your eco is actually much better

    Omg i love this strat so much, i think sanderson first came up with it. 150 halb start army, 1500 eco, you smash through their walls in 3 different places and take out their factories, plantations and vills and stuff while you wall up the map.

    gg no re 

  •  07-29-2012, 1:21 PM 963341 in reply to 963248
    Imperial Redcoat Imperial Redcoat is not online. Last active: 03-03-2013, 7:41 PM
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    Subject: Re: auntie halbirdies
    Vranak:
    EDIT: Correction, just tried countering Gendarmes with Pikeman and it failed miserably. Frankly I don't know how to beat them.
    Hit and run w/ruyters, attack move. Easy. It's better to have halbs protecting the ruyters but even still, pure ruyter should win.

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  •  07-29-2012, 3:02 PM 963343 in reply to 963341
    Vranak Vranak is not online. Last active: 09-05-2012, 12:07 PM
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    Subject: Re: auntie halbirdies
    That sounds like it might just work. How many Ruyters do you need to beat 20 Gendarmes with comparable upgrades?
  •  07-29-2012, 3:09 PM 963345 in reply to 963343
    Imperial Redcoat Imperial Redcoat is not online. Last active: 03-03-2013, 7:41 PM
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    Subject: Re: auntie halbirdies
    Vranak:
    That sounds like it might just work. How many Ruyters do you need to beat 20 Gendarmes with comparable upgrades?
    There's only one way to find out..

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  •  07-29-2012, 6:41 PM 963366 in reply to 963345
    Unkown_Genius Unkown_Genius is not online. Last active: 04-29-2013, 2:05 PM
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    Subject: Re: auntie halbirdies
    Ruyters do not beat gendarmes without a meatshield. Two ruyters are 60f 150g. 1 gendarme = 127f 127g. problem is that 1 gendarmes can kill those two ruyters pretty easy. That's why you need halbs to soak up some of that splash damage while the ruyters do their job from a distance.

    You're a noob and you suck at supremacy.
  •  07-30-2012, 1:04 AM 963383 in reply to 963366
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: auntie halbirdies
    1 000 000 000 ruyter to beat 20 gendarme
  •  07-30-2012, 5:46 AM 963387 in reply to 963383
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    Subject: Re: auntie halbirdies

    Milky__:
    1 000 000 000 ruyter to beat 20 gendarme

    Fantastic.  Informative post.

     


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  •  07-30-2012, 10:38 AM 963398 in reply to 963387
    TacticalWillie TacticalWillie is not online. Last active: 12-26-2013, 9:58 AM
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    Subject: Re: auntie halbirdies

    Spanish destroy French Gendarme, use their Pikemen, they have the only pikemen that can get to Imperial age upgrade! They have one of the biggest bonuses against horses in the game, and the best part they spam out! You them to take out buildings, with their OP speed! Since they can close the distance so fast, you can even use them to take out Abus Guns, since Abus Guns have bad hand attack.  


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  •  07-30-2012, 11:19 AM 963402 in reply to 963398
    Imperial Redcoat Imperial Redcoat is not online. Last active: 03-03-2013, 7:41 PM
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    Subject: Re: auntie halbirdies
    TacticalWillie:

    Spanish destroy French Gendarme, use their Pikemen, they have the only pikemen that can get to Imperial age upgrade! They have one of the biggest bonuses against horses in the game, and the best part they spam out! You them to take out buildings, with their OP speed! Since they can close the distance so fast, you can even use them to take out Abus Guns, since Abus Guns have bad hand attack.  

    <3

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  •  07-30-2012, 6:57 PM 963436 in reply to 963398
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: auntie halbirdies
    TacticalWillie:

    Spanish destroy French Gendarme, use their Pikemen, they have the only pikemen that can get to Imperial age upgrade! They have one of the biggest bonuses against horses in the game, and the best part they spam out! You them to take out buildings, with their OP speed! Since they can close the distance so fast, you can even use them to take out Abus Guns, since Abus Guns have bad hand attack.  

    You know what Wille

    Spanish probably have the best chance vs france. So you are almost right. Rods are just so stupidly cheap that they decimate cuir with missionaries, and stand a fairly good chance without missionaries. Pikes just don't have the hand resist to compete with the cuir splash attack, If they had like .3 HR and a little more hp, hell yeah I'd use them. 

  •  07-30-2012, 7:53 PM 963446 in reply to 963436
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    Subject: Re: auntie halbirdies
    yeah but add 3 heavy cannons to the cuirassiers and spain is done.

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  •  07-30-2012, 7:54 PM 963447 in reply to 963446
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    Subject: Re: auntie halbirdies
    remembering spain culvs op?
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