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  •  07-20-2009, 6:03 AM 828012 in reply to 827830
    vorg vorg is not online. Last active: 11-07-2009, 5:18 AM
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...

    skirm and a small amount of goons as france or full ruyter with very strong eco and skirm and towers are your only chances vs german. Even then you cant win

     

    Although if you play german correctly dutch cant win>>

     

    http://agesanctuary.com/index.php?portal=TAD&showtopic=127300

    ^ Comprehensive win vs good player as german

  •  07-20-2009, 10:13 AM 828034 in reply to 827830
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...

    AzureRebellion:
    No. Do not use cuirs. I forget the multiplier but it is insane versus cav. Even though war wagons are very good they are hardy used in any of the games ive played. Use skirms and halbs. Maybe some musks if you wish. The only time someone has used war wagons against me was the only time Im pretty sure i lost to a german. They are very good.

    Actually, most german death match players who I play with spam WWs combined with some cannons and sometimes a few prussian needle gunners.

     

     

    Anyways, Its pretty easy to beat Germany with Spain... in TAD... (unction ftw) but, since most DM players prefer the nooby vanilla....


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  •  07-20-2009, 12:07 PM 828055 in reply to 782071
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...
    Howdahs are good. BTW, what do you usually use against them?

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  •  07-20-2009, 1:13 PM 828073 in reply to 828055
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...

    Oddball the Angry:
    Howdahs are good. BTW, what do you usually use against them?

     

    Sams, doppels, Dutch halbs, War wagons, Heavy inf


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  •  07-20-2009, 3:29 PM 828103 in reply to 828073
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...
    Dude at 1min how much of those do you have in comparison to 200pop of ww. It doesnt work.
  •  07-21-2009, 9:34 AM 828288 in reply to 828103
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...
    If you want to beat a big War Wagon spam effectively, counter it with a Portuguese 20-ranged-dragoon spam. That works, if you know what you're doing.

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  •  07-22-2009, 8:50 AM 828439 in reply to 828288
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...
    alot of you idiots shouldnt be posting advice on here. first of all, "Light infantry" ARE NOT skirmisher type units. Light infantry are treated like heavy cavalry. skirmishers, arquebusiers, cassadors, macehualtin, strelets etc. are INFANTRY. Ranged INFANTRY counter LIGHT CAVALRY. Light cavalry only have bonuses vs HEAVY CAVALRY. So war wagons do not get bonuses on dragoons, ryuters and vice versa

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  •  07-22-2009, 9:24 AM 828441 in reply to 793055
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...

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  •  07-22-2009, 9:27 AM 828442 in reply to 828439
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...

    CrazyWarlord:
    alot of you idiots shouldnt be posting advice on here. first of all, "Light infantry" ARE NOT skirmisher type units. Light infantry are treated like heavy cavalry. skirmishers, arquebusiers, cassadors, macehualtin, strelets etc. are INFANTRY. Ranged INFANTRY counter LIGHT CAVALRY. Light cavalry only have bonuses vs HEAVY CAVALRY. So war wagons do not get bonuses on dragoons, ryuters and vice versa

    Light cav get bonus vs ALL cav, a hussar falls under heavy cav, hand cav, and cav. A musketeer falls under ranged inf, inf, heavy inf. Halberdeir falls under hand inf, heavy inf, and inf. A skrimsher falls under light inf, ranged inf, and inf. all cav and inf have this sort of thing: hand or ranged; light or heavy; and inf or cav.

    anything thats light inf counters light cav and any inf

    anything thats light cav counters all cav

    Crazy warlord is completely wrong. 


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  •  07-22-2009, 11:43 AM 828466 in reply to 828442
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...

    No, you are a noob, he is actually completely right. Unless you are referring to vanilla, he is right in everything he mentioned. But, even there, I dont remember light cavalry having a bonus vs all cavalry-type units.


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  •  07-22-2009, 2:48 PM 828499 in reply to 827817
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...
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    When playing a RUSH dm game, spain will generally beat germany!

    I was able to beat a M. Searg german using spain in 3:22.  I was getting units @ 0:30 seconds! You will need a very good deck and will need to be very fast to pull it off!

    Whoaooaoaoa, a RUSH deathmatch?

    Surprise

    The person who turtles and sets up a base while raiding the other person with only a few units will win! that is why he said DM rush.......You can instead of attacking keep the army in your base, Wall, put up towers, set up eco to actually have a chance if your attacks fail, Towers take out the enemy very fast.... esp when you have your ful military right there. That is why turtlers (5min turtle XD) win.

    If you've ever played dm before against a player above PR 15, you should know that nobody turtles in deathmatch, unless they want to lose.

    Thank you, you are one of many who actually understands the fundamentals of DM.



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  •  07-22-2009, 3:07 PM 828503 in reply to 827685
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...

    vorg:
    i WIll play you 10 million times and you will not get close to beating germans with spain

    Sure go ahead, i'd love to play u 1v1!

    Germany have very expensive units and they also have one of the strongest rushes.  However in order to be the fastest rusher you need to dominate the enemy with cav (germans are almost unstoppable when using war wagons) yet this type of rush is ineffective versus spain because their tercios' are exceptional counters.  Spain can achieve an effective rush at around the 30(s) mark and are also able to sustain an army of instant infantry around the same type the opposition acquires instant cav!

    And whats great about spain is that they have dirty cheap units giving them an overall boost in ealry rushs!  If the opposition is not vigilante enough and is not fast enough to counter then they will almost definitly lose the match! 

    Spain and russia are undoubtly the fastest civs at rushing in DM however they are not the strongest!

    Also, whats your best time?!

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  •  07-22-2009, 3:10 PM 828505 in reply to 828442
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...
    Musketeer924:

    CrazyWarlord:
    alot of you idiots shouldnt be posting advice on here. first of all, "Light infantry" ARE NOT skirmisher type units. Light infantry are treated like heavy cavalry. skirmishers, arquebusiers, cassadors, macehualtin, strelets etc. are INFANTRY. Ranged INFANTRY counter LIGHT CAVALRY. Light cavalry only have bonuses vs HEAVY CAVALRY. So war wagons do not get bonuses on dragoons, ryuters and vice versa

    anything thats light inf counters light cav and any inf

    anything thats light cav counters all cav

    Wait a minute...? Are you saying Cossak beats Gendarm?  Bahahah!



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  •  07-22-2009, 3:14 PM 828506 in reply to 828103
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...
    vorg:
    Dude at 1min how much of those do you have in comparison to 200pop of ww. It doesnt work.

    That is why you use spain!  Tercio can be produced in mass faster and sooner than a german wagon rush can be produced! Tercios' are also a fkn great counter for wagons!



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  •  07-22-2009, 3:17 PM 828507 in reply to 828505
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    Subject: Re: how do i defeat the germans...
    PandaXVII:
    Musketeer924:

    CrazyWarlord:
    alot of you idiots shouldnt be posting advice on here. first of all, "Light infantry" ARE NOT skirmisher type units. Light infantry are treated like heavy cavalry. skirmishers, arquebusiers, cassadors, macehualtin, strelets etc. are INFANTRY. Ranged INFANTRY counter LIGHT CAVALRY. Light cavalry only have bonuses vs HEAVY CAVALRY. So war wagons do not get bonuses on dragoons, ryuters and vice versa

    anything thats light inf counters light cav and any inf

    anything thats light cav counters all cav

    Wait a minute...? Are you saying Cossak beats Gendarm?  Bahahah!

     

    Sorry, i meant *ranged* cav have bonus vs all cav

    also, by counter i meant "has bonus against" not "beat"


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