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  •  11-06-2009, 4:42 PM 853774 in reply to 853770
    EtherImp EtherImp is not online. Last active: 11/21/2009, 11:03 AM
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    Subject: Re: How FF can ever work?
    Sure, their Age2 eco is good, but their Age2 military sucks. So, while you may  have a better eco in Age2, you can't very well protect it with your crappy Age2 units.

    "Between the velvet lies, there's a truth as hard as steel."
  •  11-06-2009, 4:51 PM 853776 in reply to 853451
    LOC_ElCiD LOC_ElCiD is not online. Last active: 11/21/2009, 4:49 AM
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    Subject: Re: How FF can ever work?

    Shipments go for the stronger shipments in age 3,

    A rax and a stable can be build with 1 unit from each being trained even before you click on aging up. It might be a slower age 3 ff but at least you can be pumping out units before you age to 3 and the strong shipments of your civ's age 3 can be cream on top.

    Try it on different maps and see what works best for you.

    I like the BWR mixed with minutemen and 2 cannon with pike being pumped then set on guard on the cannons. 


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  •  11-06-2009, 5:16 PM 853783 in reply to 853774
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    Subject: Re: How FF can ever work?

    EtherImp:
    Sure, their Age2 eco is good, but their Age2 military sucks. So, while you may  have a better eco in Age2, you can't very well protect it with your crappy Age2 units.

    their age 2 units are not crappy

    you're been playing too much vanilla


  •  11-06-2009, 6:10 PM 853792 in reply to 853783
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    Subject: Re: How FF can ever work?
    Uhlans are great; they beat pretty much every other colonial cav cost-effectively.

    Mantlets first are wood heavy units, and die fast from ranged inf..



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  •  11-06-2009, 6:17 PM 853800 in reply to 853792
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    Subject: Re: How FF can ever work?
    this guy kinda reminds me of ultimitsu... like talking to a brick wall :/
  •  11-06-2009, 6:18 PM 853801 in reply to 853792
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    Subject: Re: How FF can ever work?
    taunt 1

  •  11-06-2009, 6:19 PM 853803 in reply to 853801
    Im_not_1x1 Im_not_1x1 is not online. Last active: 20 Nov 2009, 5:59 PM
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    Subject: Re: How FF can ever work?

    Bart331:
    taunt 1

    +1


    Mantlets first are wood heavy units, and die fast from ranged inf..



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  •  11-06-2009, 6:20 PM 853805 in reply to 853803
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    Subject: Re: How FF can ever work?
    ỈxỊ:

    Bart331:
    taunt 1

    +1

     Taunt 2 


    Mantlets first are wood heavy units, and die fast from ranged inf..



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  •  11-06-2009, 7:06 PM 853835 in reply to 853805
    Bart331 Bart331 is not online. Last active: 11-21-2009, 1:54 PM
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    Subject: Re: How FF can ever work?

    Ontopic:

     1x1 is a nub


  •  11-06-2009, 7:14 PM 853836 in reply to 853454
    artisticcheese artisticcheese is not online. Last active: 11-16-2009, 7:35 AM
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    Subject: Re: How FF can ever work?

    My online ES online id is artisticcheese and if somebody can show me how FF works please invite me into 1x1 game. I'll play Dutch and will stay in colonial pumping out skirmishers and Hussars, will ship pikeman. You will do naked FF, which means you don't create any units untill you reach fortress.

    At that moment I'll roll in with my army and you can do whatever you feel is neccessary to defend and counter.

    I'd like to see how this will work.

  •  11-06-2009, 9:37 PM 853861 in reply to 853800
    EtherImp EtherImp is not online. Last active: 11/21/2009, 11:03 AM
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    Subject: Re: How FF can ever work?

    SunilD93:
    this guy kinda reminds me of ultimitsu... like talking to a brick wall :/

    Who? Me?

    It's been pretty well known for a long time that German Age2 military is not that great. They lack Muskets. Xbows are better than they once were. That doesn't change the fact that Musketeers are *RANGED* HI units with decent siege and Germany lacks that, plain and simple.

    Pikes and Dopps are not ranged. Dopps are expensive and have higher pop than Muskets.

    Compare Germanys Age2 military to Ottoman or Japan. There simply is no comparison. German military shines in Age3.

    That said... It's not like you're talking to a brick wall because I can actually make valid points, and when you (or GS or whoever) makes valid points I can understand them.

    The way I see it.. Germans excellent Age2 economy is best used by making it to Age3 where you can dominate with Uber-Shipments and a much improved military.

     

    Edit: Artistic, I'll add you in game.


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  •  11-06-2009, 10:17 PM 853864 in reply to 853861
    1x1 1x1 is not online. Last active: Sat, Nov 21 2009, 4:05 PM
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    Subject: Re: How FF can ever work?
    You are ignoring their awesome cav, not to mention OP military shipments like 3SW+2 uhlan and 8xbow+ 2 uhlan

    Mantlets first are wood heavy units, and die fast from ranged inf..



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  •  11-06-2009, 10:36 PM 853867 in reply to 853864
    EtherImp EtherImp is not online. Last active: 11/21/2009, 11:03 AM
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    Subject: Re: How FF can ever work?

    1x1:
    You are ignoring their awesome cav, not to mention OP military shipments like 3SW+2 uhlan and 8xbow+ 2 uhlan

    Their Cav is cost effective but not that awesome until they are upgraded.

    And, their "OP military shipments" are not OP considering they come slower than any other civs. Are they powerful? Yes.. But the XP penalty means they're not "OP".

    According to the logic ES used to balance German shipments they should have made Spanish shipments 15% weaker.


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