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  •  06-02-2012, 2:21 PM 958193 in reply to 958192
    gs gs is not online. Last active: 03/07/2014, 9:24 AM
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    Subject: Re: About micro, strategy and macro

    everyone is biased and i'm no exception but this doesn't mean i'm wrong. i'm not just defending sup because i personally like it better, but also because it's just.. better. it's how AOE3 was meant to be played.

    i've played this game more than anyone here, i've been active on agecomm longer than anyone here and i'm the only one here who has played sup on a top level AND treaty on a decent enough level to be allowed in top games. when comparing the 2 game types i don't just know what i'm talking about, i'm the only one on these forums who does. 


  •  06-02-2012, 2:24 PM 958194 in reply to 958193
    LordStefanIII LordStefanIII is not online. Last active: 03/07/2014, 4:07 PM
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    Haha, how did I know you were going to say that. GG Mr. gs I guess we can`t go any further with your greatness.
  •  06-02-2012, 2:25 PM 958195 in reply to 958187
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    Subject: Re: About micro, strategy and macro

    quantity is more imp in treaty than precision , (opoasite is true in sup), (u have many unit to position , so u dont want to leave many of them in wrong position just to put some of them at precise position, becoz u know u cant do it ) , btw i never said positioning is not imp in sup , micro in treaty is not challlenging as such , only chalenge is to do at large scale and almost all the time 

    multitasking in treaty is not related to worry of being attacked or raided, its about building fb and fighting at many places at same time in sup players on rare ocation fight at many places  same time ,so you can focus more on precise micro in sup

     

    btw can you tell what sup players do in eco management except for adjusting villi on resourses and managing idle villi ?  , ( researching rite tech and ship rite resourse shipment is related to thinking work , which we all agree is much more in sup in compare to treaty, that make sup better ,  but in my post i am  just talking about the work u have to do by ur hands , which i think is more in treaty at higher level)

     

    regarding the fact i am new , yes i am new to aoe3 and relativly new in rts

     

     btw we can argue all the time which has more work(apm) sup or treaty , becoz you think it is more in sup , and i think it is more in in treaty , only way to get a to a conclusion is to test it , (can you post ur average apm during a gud sup game ?) else we must end this discussion as its going no where

     

    @ fuher , there is no absolute way to compare skill level in two different game style , apm is the  best practical indicator which can give us some indication 

     


    knight_br:
    Optimal explanation .. very succinctly


    LordStefanIII:

    Unkown_Genius:
    Leave it to Age.Comm to get a thread twenty miles off topic.


    :)

    Or turn into a flame war.

  •  06-02-2012, 2:29 PM 958196 in reply to 958190
    ANKUR ANKUR is not online. Last active: 09-15-2013, 1:53 AM
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    Subject: Re: About micro, strategy and macro
    knight_br:

    LordStefanIII:
    . By simply seeing how great storm was you would have noticed TR has come along way.

    +1

     

    but sanderson still is the biggest legend 

    +1

     


    knight_br:
    Optimal explanation .. very succinctly


    LordStefanIII:

    Unkown_Genius:
    Leave it to Age.Comm to get a thread twenty miles off topic.


    :)

    Or turn into a flame war.

  •  06-02-2012, 2:29 PM 958197 in reply to 958194
    gs gs is not online. Last active: 03/07/2014, 9:24 AM
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    Subject: Re: About micro, strategy and macro

    LordStefanIII:
    Haha, how did I know you were going to say that. GG Mr. gs I guess we can`t go any further with your greatness.

    do you actually have anything to say? my points remain and if you want to disagree with me how about reply to them like ANKUR is, instead of attacking my credibility which i clearly have more of than anyone here :\ i'm just saying it how it is.


  •  06-02-2012, 2:34 PM 958198 in reply to 958195
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    Subject: Re: About micro, strategy and macro
    ANKUR:

    quantity is more imp in treaty than precision , (opoasite is true in sup), (u have many unit to position , so u dont want to leave many of them in wrong position just to put some of them at precise position, becoz u know u cant do it ) , btw i never said positioning is not imp in sup , micro in treaty is not challlenging as such , only chalenge is to do at large scale and almost all the time 

    multitasking in treaty is not related to worry of being attacked or raided, its about building fb and fighting at many places at same time in sup players on rare ocation fight at many places  same time ,so you can focus more on precise micro in sup

     

    btw can you tell what sup players do in eco management except for adjusting villi on resourses and managing idle villi ?  , ( researching rite tech and ship rite resourse shipment is related to thinking work , which we all agree is much more in sup in compare to treaty, that make sup better ,  but in my post i am  just talking about the work u have to do by ur hands , which i think is more in treaty at higher level)

     

    regarding the fact i am new , yes i am new to aoe3 and relativly new in rts

     

     btw we can argue all the time which has more work(apm) sup or treaty , becoz you think it is more in sup , and i think it is more in in treaty , only way to get a to a conclusion is to test it , (can you post ur average apm during a gud sup game ?) else we must end this discussion as its going no where

     

    @ fuher , there is no absolute way to compare skill level in two different game style , apm is the  best practical indicator which can give us some indication 

    yeah i don't think we can resolve this by theorizing. you're clearly new to this game (although you do seem to understand it better than most new players), and i've told you how sup works in sufficient detail. if you disagree with me that's okay but i don't think me explaining it further has any point. my advice to you: watch high level sup VODs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr4WJp-OomY&feature=plcp, or, even better, play it and find out for yourself how it works. 

    my disc dash thing highscore is somewhere around 600K. i have never recorded my APM but like i explained APM is not relevant if mashing buttons counts as an action.


  •  06-02-2012, 2:44 PM 958199 in reply to 958197
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    Subject: Re: About micro, strategy and macro
    gs:

    LordStefanIII:
    Haha, how did I know you were going to say that. GG Mr. gs I guess we can`t go any further with your greatness.

    do you actually have anything to say? my points remain and if you want to disagree with me how about reply to them like ANKUR is, instead of attacking my credibility which i clearly have more of than anyone here :\ i'm just saying it how it is.

    Lol no, this thread is just funny so many ways. I'll just sit on the side lines and watch. Thank you.

  •  06-02-2012, 2:47 PM 958200 in reply to 958198
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    Subject: Re: About micro, strategy and macro

    i am new but not that new i am in aoe3 for 8 months , and i have already watched most of the high level sup vods , i am playing this game regularly too ,me too think discusing further dont have any point ,

    may be  some day i will get a sup game which change my thinking , or you will get a treaty game which will change ur veiw about treaty (if you play treaty in future )


    knight_br:
    Optimal explanation .. very succinctly


    LordStefanIII:

    Unkown_Genius:
    Leave it to Age.Comm to get a thread twenty miles off topic.


    :)

    Or turn into a flame war.

  •  06-02-2012, 2:48 PM 958201 in reply to 958200
    gs gs is not online. Last active: 03/07/2014, 9:24 AM
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    Subject: Re: About micro, strategy and macro

    afraid not. if i ever play aoe3 again it would be sup, TAD FP with sam. IF it ever happens that we feel like playing at the same time... 


  •  06-02-2012, 3:09 PM 958205 in reply to 958201
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    gs dude.... 600k is insane <3

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  •  06-02-2012, 11:03 PM 958221 in reply to 958205
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    Subject: Re: About micro, strategy and macro

    Jerom:
    gs dude.... 600k is insane <3 Jizz <3 Jizz <3

  •  06-04-2012, 2:12 AM 958278 in reply to 958221
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    Subject: Re: About micro, strategy and macro

    TBH GS is right in this looool. idk why you guys are arguing over it.

    Altho in my post I stated that I just found tr more fun than sup (more social even at top level, not saying sup isn't tho) which is why I played it. that's my defense for playing tr, idk why u guys go around saying tr requires more skill blah blah. it doesn't. It's just more entertaining. And that's why i play video games. 

  •  06-04-2012, 2:38 AM 958280 in reply to 958278
    LordStefanIII LordStefanIII is not online. Last active: 03/07/2014, 4:07 PM
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    Subject: Re: About micro, strategy and macro
    This old thread, no bump pl0x. :P
  •  06-04-2012, 2:49 AM 958281 in reply to 958221
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: About micro, strategy and macro
    This thread is from yesterday -.-
  •  06-04-2012, 3:14 AM 958282 in reply to 958281
    LordStefanIII LordStefanIII is not online. Last active: 03/07/2014, 4:07 PM
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    I know haha
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