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Last post 06-21-2008, 10:44 AM by Fellow. 235 replies.
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Re: Age 4- World Wars
id have 4 ages not 5 and they would be called
age 1: imperial age
age 2: civil age
age 3: death age
age 4: nuclear age
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Re: Age 4- World Wars
This game would be great with a ww1 / two addition.
I won't try and keep an arguement that nobody seems to believe as true as it is.
If you wanna argue canada should be included with the british empire in ww1, fine. But in ww2 we were a totally seperate entity.
Canada was a major player in both ww's, along with the anzacs and other commonwealth forces. In ww2, the Canadian gov even made it clear of our independance. purposely waited two weeks to declare.
Erwin Rommel Arthur Currie Bernhard Montgomery Georgi Zhukov Douglas MacArthur Tomoyuki Yamashita Fillipe Petain
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I have to agree that I simply can't picture it. I mean, in the wars of Age of Empires III, there's not really a good and bad force. It's simply different european colonies competing for trade and land. Only good and bad situation is the Natives fighting for their homeland, but the game barely addresses that as good and bad. WWII had Nazi's, and it's hard to find a single person who doesn't consider them bad. I can't see Age of Empires holding it's same mood there. Not to mention, older Age of Empire games have had a free-for-all mood, because in midevil times there were just wars like crazy, and in the colonization era there were all sorts of fights between different colonies here and there. WWI and WWII, had two definite sides though. If I were in charge of making Age of Empires IV, I'd simply think about re-designing an older time period (like re-doing AOE II but with plenty of new content), or keep expanding AOE III until I good idea comes up. I mean, they still haven't touched Africa, which also saw plenty of colonization, and they haven't touched Europe, which is honestly where the Germans and Ottoman Turks spent their time, rather than in Asia or the Americas. I can see settlers working. Food is always neccesary, as is cash and some form of building material. What I can't see working is the counter system. Now light infantry counters heavy, heavy counters cavalry, cavalry counters artillery, etc etc. What would they do for WWI? Infantry just fights, but gets countered by tanks AND planes? Of course they could make infantry designed to take out tanks, and tanks designed to take out planes, but it just feels sloppy with basic infantry having no real strength to it and it's only benefit being it's cheaper.
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Re: Age 4- World Wars
Heres the things some civs could specialize in. Even though it's not all accurate, it's balanced
U.S: Best planes U.K: Best ships Germany: Best tanks Russia: Best artillery China: Highest population cap
Japan: Something to do with technology?
Born for the front lines.
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Re: Age 4- World Wars
Germany: Best tanks, strong air force, great subs. Strong on defence, due to fanaticism.
Russia: Skilled marksmen and the Best tanks of the war
UK: Strong Navy, Skilled pilots, main benefit: Fighter Command (at the time, the most advanced anti-air system in the world)
Japan: Best soldiers (due to conviction), Terrian bonus if they work in hotter climates, advanced navy
US: Advanced Navy, Strong Planes, best amphibious landing force
China was essentailly eliminated at the beggining of ww2 so there's better options.
Anzac Forces (Aussies, New Zealanders, etc.): Terrain Bonus in hot climates, Strong troops (Conviction to defend thier homeland)
Canada: Strong Troops, skilled tankmen, quickest production of aircraft (Via: EATS).
For some specail units:
German Luftwaffe Paratroops (Fallschirmjager)
Me-136 Komet
King Tiger Tank
Russia:
T34 Tank
United Kingdom:
Chindits
Spitfire
Churchill Tanks (and variants)
Japan:
Kamikaze
"Cherry Blossom"
Tenkai (heaven shaker)
US
B-17 FF
Marines
Aussies... I don't really know
Canada:
Don't really know.... they tended to use british and american equipment, although sometimes, to a lot better ability than either of them.
I frankly have no problem fighting as the Germans. These games don't cover the holocaust, and the germans were just soldiers like any other army in the field.
Erwin Rommel Arthur Currie Bernhard Montgomery Georgi Zhukov Douglas MacArthur Tomoyuki Yamashita Fillipe Petain
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Re: Age 4- World Wars
Emp. Rommel:Germany: Best tanks, strong air force, great subs. Strong on defence, due to fanaticism.
Russia: Skilled marksmen and the Best tanks of the war
UK: Strong Navy, Skilled pilots, main benefit: Fighter Command (at the time, the most advanced anti-air system in the world)
Japan: Best soldiers (due to conviction), Terrian bonus if they work in hotter climates, advanced navy
US: Advanced Navy, Strong Planes, best amphibious landing force
China was essentailly eliminated at the beggining of ww2 so there's better options.
Anzac Forces (Aussies, New Zealanders, etc.): Terrain Bonus in hot climates, Strong troops (Conviction to defend thier homeland)
Canada: Strong Troops, skilled tankmen, quickest production of aircraft (Via: EATS).
While I agree with most of this, and I like the idea, shouldn't Germany have the strongest attack of the civs, not defense? After all Germany was doing more attacking then defending, until the war turned over that is....... Why does Russia get good tanks? In my memory they had little to no armor support, instead they should get an awesome bonus for cold whether. Japan's navy was the best, those 2 massive battleships they made could be a special unit or something....... And China should have large numbers (sorta like in TAD lol) but weak equipment.
lordmaur:no one with a little of brain Makes me grateful to have my little of brain, else I might have atrocious grammar. vancebla:Ya, the AIs are in AoE3 suck. In treaty, they rush you really hard Cheatin AIs.
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Emp. Rommel:Germany: Best tanks, strong air force, great subs. Strong on defence, due to fanaticism.
Russia: Skilled marksmen and the Best tanks of the war
UK: Strong Navy, Skilled pilots, main benefit: Fighter Command (at the time, the most advanced anti-air system in the world)
Japan: Best soldiers (due to conviction), Terrian bonus if they work in hotter climates, advanced navy
US: Advanced Navy, Strong Planes, best amphibious landing force
China was essentailly eliminated at the beggining of ww2 so there's better options.
Anzac Forces (Aussies, New Zealanders, etc.): Terrain Bonus in hot climates, Strong troops (Conviction to defend thier homeland)
Canada: Strong Troops, skilled tankmen, quickest production of aircraft (Via: EATS).
For some specail units:
German Luftwaffe Paratroops (Fallschirmjager)
Me-136 Komet
King Tiger Tank
Russia:
T34 Tank
United Kingdom:
Chindits
Spitfire
Churchill Tanks (and variants)
Japan:
Kamikaze
"Cherry Blossom"
Tenkai (heaven shaker)
US
B-17 FF
Marines
Aussies... I don't really know
Canada:
Don't really know.... they tended to use british and american equipment, although sometimes, to a lot better ability than either of them.
I frankly have no problem fighting as the Germans. These games don't cover the holocaust, and the germans were just soldiers like any other army in the field.
..... : /
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I agree with Finland being a civ. During the Calmar union or whatever, Finland was the country that did all the fighting for the Danes and the Swedes against Russia. The Finnish or fennomani were always the pioneer settlers. Skilled fighters. And today FInland is very economic and rich. Good living standards. Finland would make a perfect civilization for AoE4. EDIT: The molotov coctails ftw!
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Kaarle_W:I agree with Finland being a civ. During the Calmar union or whatever, Finland was the country that did all the fighting for the Danes and the Swedes against Russia. The Finnish or fennomani were always the pioneer settlers. Skilled fighters. And today FInland is very economic and rich. Good living standards. Finland would make a perfect civilization for AoE4. EDIT: The molotov coctails ftw!
Ofcourse everyone wants to play their own country as a civ , hell id love to play as holland or w/e , but the simple truth is holland didnt do *** in ww1 and ww2 , same applys for finland imo .
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True, if you look at the big picture, then Finland wasn't a major player in the wws. But if you look at the northern part of europe, then Finland was quite active. Ashamed as I am to say it, Finland did co-operate with the Nazis, not to mention the wars with Russia. I think that's enough reason to include Finland. At least I hope so.
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