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  •  11-13-2009, 4:08 AM 855579
    EtherImp EtherImp is not online. Last active: 03/06/2012, 1:56 PM
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    Subject: German vs...

    Germany vs the following civs...

    Japan (Been trying Double-Rax Xbow/Pike spam, Semi-FF, and Merc FF)

    India (Been trying X-Bow Defense)

    China (Been trying 20 Xbow Semi-FF)

    Iro (Usually do X-Bow defense..)

    Sioux (Usually X-Bows/Pike colonial, and Semi-FF)

    Aztec (Not even sure where to start here..Haven't played vs Aztec in forever) 

    What strats can I expect to see out of these civs and what strats should I try to use to counter them?

    Also.. Ottoman Fast Revolt.. Best way to counter is to rush them?


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  •  11-13-2009, 6:00 AM 855591 in reply to 855579
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    Subject: Re: German vs...
    EtherImp:

    Germany vs the following civs...

    Japan (Been trying Double-Rax Xbow/Pike spam, Semi-FF, and Merc FF) Probably merc semiff

    India (Been trying X-Bow Defense) Can't really win this matchup, try semi-FF once again

    China (Been trying 20 Xbow Semi-FF) Why 20xbows exact?

    Iro (Usually do X-Bow defense..) Xbow+Pike defense + attack

    Sioux (Usually X-Bows/Pike colonial, and Semi-FF) SemiFF

    Aztec (Not even sure where to start here..Haven't played vs Aztec in forever) Good

    What strats can I expect to see out of these civs and what strats should I try to use to counter them?

    Also.. Ottoman Fast Revolt.. Best way to counter is to rush them? Nah, let him go revolt and pwn u...


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  •  11-13-2009, 6:06 AM 855592 in reply to 855591
    EtherImp EtherImp is not online. Last active: 03/06/2012, 1:56 PM
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    Subject: Re: German vs...

    Vs China, not 20 bow exactly, necessarily.. But lemme put it this way.. If by the time I make 20xbows he hasn't rushed me yet (and I scout properly), I will use the ~20 xbows and free uhlans to harass, then try to make it to 3.. This has come to bite me in the ass before though.

    Any suggestions?

    And what strats should I expect out of these civs above PR 25?


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  •  11-13-2009, 1:52 PM 855633 in reply to 855579
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    Subject: Re: German vs...
    EtherImp:

    Germany vs the following civs... I answered the questions assuming you are using RE patch.

    Japan (Been trying Double-Rax Xbow/Pike spam, Semi-FF, and Merc FF) hard MU, if you xbow rush ashi/yumi+clubs will beat you, if you FF japan will get a hell of a big eco :(

    Probably best to xbow/pike rush and constantly harass shrines with pikes.  

    India (Been trying X-Bow Defense) Again pretty hard MU, staying defensive with xbow/pike sounds good though.

    China (Been trying 20 Xbow Semi-FF) Go xbow start and get uhlans ASAP make sure to get 5 pikes first batch otherwise you'll get **** by 7 steppe rider shipment.

    Iro (Usually do X-Bow defense..) Another OP civ so difficult MU. Again xbow/pike defense is probably best option.

    Sioux (Usually X-Bows/Pike colonial, and Semi-FF) Sounds fine IMO, if you get fortress ship BR ASAP they completely own sioux units Big Smile

    Aztec (Not even sure where to start here..Haven't played vs Aztec in forever) Uhlan start with 8 xbow shipment may be good IMO, take out the SK with xbows and let your uhlans then take down the mace shipment. Play defensively though. Get rax up ASAP since you'll need xbows/pikes as well.

    What strats can I expect to see out of these civs and what strats should I try to use to counter them?

    Most of the civs you listed seem to have kinda lame rushes (japan has lame units) so pretty hard MUs. IMO germany will beat sioux though and have small advantage vs china.

    Also.. Ottoman Fast Revolt.. Best way to counter is to rush them?

    Yes. Don't let him fast revolt, because if he does you're probably going to lose since it is difficult beating imperial hussars when you're in fortress (dopples will counter, but CM beat dopples quite easily :( )

  •  11-16-2009, 8:32 AM 856196 in reply to 855633
    Kiyoshi Kiyoshi is not online. Last active: 03-23-2010, 3:11 PM
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    Subject: Re: German vs...

    Aztec--> with coyote runners and macehualtin he beats xbow/uhlan thrust me

  •  11-16-2009, 3:58 PM 856245 in reply to 856196
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    Subject: Re: German vs...
    vs china you could probably go straight uhlan and then get to fortress whenever :p
  •  12-30-2011, 12:34 AM 946804 in reply to 856245
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    Subject: Re: German vs...
    What strats can I expect to see out of these civs and what strats should I try to use to counter them?

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  •  12-30-2011, 1:07 AM 946807 in reply to 946804
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    Subject: Re: German vs...

    sief3792:
    What strats can I expect to see out of these civs and what strats should I try to use to counter them?

    Also.. Ottoman Fast Revolt.. Best way to counter is to rush them?Our company always provides you the WOW Gold for you. Just place an order and to Tera Gold andCheap Maplestory Mesos

    OMG THE BOTS ARE LEARNING I TELL YOU!!! THEY ARE ADAPTING TO RYZONS DEFENSES, SOON WE WILL ALL BE OVERWHELMED  BY BOTS... TO MANY TO FIGHT, WE WILL HAVE TO FLEE TO ANOTHER FORUM, BUT THEY WILL FIND US THERE TWO.... WERE DOOMED!!!


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  •  12-30-2011, 1:24 AM 946808 in reply to 946807
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    Subject: Re: German vs...
    HunterCallahan:

    sief3792:
    What strats can I expect to see out of these civs and what strats should I try to use to counter them?

    Also.. Ottoman Fast Revolt.. Best way to counter is to rush them?Our company always provides you the WOW Gold for you. Just place an order and to Tera Gold andCheap Maplestory Mesos

    OMG THE BOTS ARE LEARNING I TELL YOU!!! THEY ARE ADAPTING TO RYZONS DEFENSES, SOON WE WILL ALL BE OVERWHELMED  BY BOTS... TO MANY TO FIGHT, WE WILL HAVE TO FLEE TO ANOTHER FORUM, BUT THEY WILL FIND US THERE TWO.... WERE DOOMED!!!

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  •  07-19-2012, 2:35 AM 962178 in reply to 946808
    MaliceInWonderland MaliceInWonderland is not online. Last active: 07-19-2012, 4:14 AM
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    Subject: Re: German vs...
    Everything sounds pretty sound except letting the ottos get a revolt..... thats just death.....
  •  07-19-2012, 2:55 AM 962183 in reply to 962178
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    Subject: Re: German vs...

    MaliceInWonderland:
    Everything sounds pretty sound except letting the ottos get a revolt..... thats just death.....

    thread from 3 yrs ago... plz look at the date b4 u bump threads.


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