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  •  03-26-2008, 12:59 PM 670915
    Japengo Japengo is not online. Last active: 06-16-2008, 3:26 PM
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    Subject: Iriqouis please help
    i just got war cheifs and ive been playin  iriqouis but what cards are best to have anyone have a rush strat  or something i could use, it would be really appreciated

  •  03-26-2008, 4:45 PM 671043 in reply to 670915
    A414A | Nederlandse Nemesis A414A | Nederlandse Nemesis is online. Last active: 07-18-2008, 2:13 PM
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    Subject: Re: Iriqouis please help

    I just came up with this on the spot lol.

    Its called the Aenna rush. Basically, train villies, and put them all on food (some on wood for houses), advance (2 Travois person) with 14 villies. Move these travois to the opponent, and turn them into war huts. Make sure u can get more villies on food, and train Aennas from the war huts. The good thing here is that they only cost food, so u need only gather food, which is awesome. Pack the infinite Colonial resources card too, could be useful if coin and wood is needed. get some people on a Travois dance or wood or something for longhouses.

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  •  03-26-2008, 5:00 PM 671048 in reply to 671043
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    Subject: Re: Iriqouis please help
    sweet thanx

  •  03-26-2008, 7:43 PM 671104 in reply to 671043
    Иван Грозный Иван Грозный is not online. Last active: 18-07-2008, 1:27 PM
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    Subject: Re: Iriqouis please help
    GuitarHeroMatt:

    I just came up with this on the spot lol.

    Its called the Aenna rush. Basically, train villies, and put them all on food (some on wood for houses), advance (2 Travois person) with 14 villies. Move these travois to the opponent, and turn them into war huts. Make sure u can get more villies on food, and train Aennas from the war huts. The good thing here is that they only cost food, so u need only gather food, which is awesome. Pack the infinite Colonial resources card too, could be useful if coin and wood is needed. get some people on a Travois dance or wood or something for longhouses.

    Any comments?

    Great strat, just that is countered pretty easily...

    Also its what every iroquois player does, except for the fact that they create tomahawks too...


     


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  •  03-26-2008, 8:11 PM 671121 in reply to 671104
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    Subject: Re: Iriqouis please help

    There are 2 Basic Iroquois strategies (which can be easily deviated from).

    1. Semi FF/FF & Forest Prowlers + Shipments.
      Basically the idea here is to get to fortress age and spam out forest prowlers with shipments (e.g. anti cav) to back up.
    2. Tomahawk Rush
      The idea here is to get loads of tomahawks fast, and put pressure on the opponent early. Tomahawks are great because of their 5 speed, so light infantry have a hard time (except skirmishers) competing with these units so early on.

    I'm not an Iroquois expert, but if you want more info on either of these, I'd be happy to (try and) help Stick out tongue.


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  •  03-27-2008, 5:11 AM 671297 in reply to 671121
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    Subject: Re: Iriqouis please help

    To be honest, I wasnt surprised that my Aenna rush would be countered easily, or that it was very commonly used. If they train cav, just put a few villies on wood and do tomahawks.

    And seriously? Ivan the Terrible said my strat was great, and although he was probably being sarcastic, Ill take that as a compliment.Cool




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  •  03-27-2008, 10:16 AM 671349 in reply to 671297
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    Subject: Re: Iriqouis please help
    GuitarHeroMatt:

    To be honest, I wasnt surprised that my Aenna rush would be countered easily, or that it was very commonly used. If they train cav, just put a few villies on wood and do tomahawks.

    And seriously? Ivan the Terrible said my strat was great, and although he was probably being sarcastic, Ill take that as a compliment.Cool

    IMO, still if you put some wood to build tomahawks, you will losre all tyour army, and that can probably make you lose the game, you need to train both, RI and HI. 


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  •  03-27-2008, 1:09 PM 671415 in reply to 671349
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    Subject: Re: Iriqouis please help

    Thanks. But Ive found the Aennas to be much weaker than Crossbows, and u get less in a shipment, wtf? Without decent LI in the Colonial Age, heavy infantry swarms destroy my base too quickly. I promptly decided that the Iroquois are rubbish and trying manor booming with the Brits...

    Although, FFing with Forest Prowlers might work, at least in nr10.




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  •  03-27-2008, 2:05 PM 671445 in reply to 671415
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    Subject: Re: Iriqouis please help
    GuitarHeroMatt:

    Thanks. But Ive found the Aennas to be much weaker than Crossbows, and u get less in a shipment, wtf? Without decent LI in the Colonial Age, heavy infantry swarms destroy my base too quickly. I promptly decided that the Iroquois are rubbish and trying manor booming with the Brits...

    Although, FFing with Forest Prowlers might work, at least in nr10.

    thats why they are getting boosted in next patch...

    But actually, they are so weak because they got tons of upgrades, Iroquois got 6 cards to upgrade aennas, also got war chief aura+war dance. And since they cost pure food, its the same that they would cost 40 food and wood. So they supposed to be very weak.

    Also, remember that aennas, skirmishers, and arhcers are RI, not LI, LI are coyote runners, disciples, eagle runner knights, etc...

     


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  •  03-28-2008, 2:35 PM 672015 in reply to 671445
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    Subject: Re: Iriqouis please help

    Iro's are a fairly strong civ IMO (probably top 5/6) you can straight FF and do a really, really nice semi-ff with the 6 toma/7 annena shipment + the toma bb for early harassment and then straight up to fortress with the 600 gold card and spam prowlers like crazy with the 5 musket rider shipment/6 kanya etc.

    You can rush with them which isn't too great but It's really nice change of pace because nearly everyone thinks semi-FF or straight FF so if you decide to toma-rush somebody who's geared up for a FF you can cause all kinds of problems for them.


  •  03-28-2008, 9:08 PM 672287 in reply to 671445
    Dopplesoldners Dopplesoldners is not online. Last active: 05-20-2008, 4:39 PM
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    Subject: Re: Iriqouis please help

    Iriqouis can have a good rush defence also. There is a card that gives you higher building hitpoints. I know what your thinking it's not by much. The Aztecs can get their walls up to 32,000 since they have have warrior priests when doing the building dance. Without warrior priests Iriqouis can still get their walls up to 15,000 early in the game then 20,000 at there best. It will protect you against early-game rushs but at the end mortar can still take them down in a few minutes. around 3,or 4     7 minutes tops.                       P.S. it's a card that gives you the building dance abilty. Every Native American has the card as a option but with out walls it doesn't work to well for the Siox


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