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japanese will win 80% of the time

1 if i am using japan, i wouldn't rush ottos, i would defend first, 5 yumis from ur card+ TC fire kill the first wave of 10 jans easily

2japan has WAY BETTER eco.  they have shrines, while ottos spawn settlers very slow.  in about 8 mins japan can have a stable ready and starts trainning naginata riders, which will kill both abus guns and settlers easily.  their barracks will train ashigaru muskets.  it will be very easy to defend

3in about 10~12 mins of game time japanese players can have 40 attack muskets, and a way better eco

Master_Exodium:

Иван Грозный:

If you do that, that would slow you pretty much, and any easy ottoman rush would pretty own you, even a pure jan one...

Also, obus dont make half damage against yumis...

Oh and, yumi RR dont affect obus, obus make siege damage, not ranged, technically it looks at ranged, but its really siege, and it dont affects em.

 

How does it slow me down? They pretty much always rush, sometimes with just jans, when they do they need to disrupt my economy for it to be worth it, and like I said I usually kill his rush with no villager losses and less military losses, keep making units and defending while building a stronger economy than his, which i can as japan. Could you explain what you mean?

As to the obus, i checked the dmg out and you're right, no half dmg, the details for obus say they do 0.5 dmg against LI, yumis are LI, so i don't get that. I think is because i usually have a lot more yumis they he has abus so it just seemed like they did better because of the numbers.

I meaned of your pure-boom strat, if you make a lot of eco vs 1 of the best rush civs in the game, and just little military, you will lose easily.

I hate those people that never heard of that TWC change that makes yumis, skirmishers, crossbows, etc... RANGED INFANTRY (RI), and adding units such as disciples, coyote runners, eagle runner knights as LIGHT INFANTRY (LI), light infantry are basically substitutes of cavalry, and obus guns got a negative bonus vs em because they got an another vs cavalry.

So yumis are RI, and the negative bonus obus gun vs LI dont affects em.

Abus gun.

and a jap won't use yumi, will rather go full ashigaru and spam nags with them later, the otto just won't stand a chance...