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i will list the civs from strongest to weakest in treaty in my opinion

|french|>|rusian>dutch>aztec|>|british>german|>|portugese>spanish>ottomen|>|iriqois>sioux|

anyone disagree/agree, and explain?

depends on the lenght of the treaty time, if it was only a 10 min treaty then spain would be up near the top.

lol 10 min treaty games are the only treaty games that do the least amount of damage to your skill since you can do a real FF and somewhat of a rush

sioux and spain at the top in 10 min treaty.

in 20 min treaty dutch at the top. [Edited on 12/27/2006]

i love it how no one knows how to use spanish if u ever played me in spanish im not an easy win i change my troops very often when i see what u make mine would be French Russia Spanish Ottoman Dutch Iroquois
British Portuguese German Aztec Sioux

this is my 40 minute treaty i dont know i seem to be doing fine with it

why spanish, thier econ is weak, and thier ranged units arnt great, ottomen also have a bad econ, and thier musketeer like unit isnt that great vs calvery. Iroqois are expecially weak to calvery spams, and thier canon and mantelt rely on wood, which is limited. Dont undermine aztec, thier skull night + all big button upgrade army can win the game fast, and thier eagle runners are good at protecting cannons, maby they are better in team games, but still can be used cheaply, like just spamming prowlers, like gendarm.

Germans are actually the strongest civilisation that will make u win in treaty games. At first i played with the ottomans but after a while i kept losing the i changed to french then i lost the second game with it. I played with dutch, they are good but they doesn't have good cavalry. At last I played with the germans and won 11 treaty games in a row, that is kool! if u disagree, explain.

ulahan pop bug

I only play Ports, and the only civ i know i will have a hard time beating is French cav. I have done well against them at times but i have to really mix the troops and outnumber the mass cav. Other civ i know i will have a good chance of a good game against them.
French be at the top for me and Ports second for me. Russians i have no problem countering them, they build a fort with the musketeer i knock it down with the long range mortors. [Edited on 1/7/2007]

ports dosnt have a cheap advantage besides maby thier motars, but Thier econ and raiding powers and quick win powers dont compare to other civs.

40 ++ min nr Power wit/econ

French, Russian, Port, Dutch, Brit, Aztec, Spanish, Iroqous, Otto, German(pop bug), Sioux



French penalize furtrade or just eliminate it.
RUSSIAN Remove faster fort build card

Otto need more gold econ cards and a better anti cav unit give otto's a bigger hand damage bonus.

Iroqous can have a great econ but cannons are to weak against heavy infantry and the club man suck vs heavy cav.

Sioux needs GOLD CARDS lots of them probably the worst econ after 30min.

German can score high but with pop bug can't make an army so no one plays germans.

Aztec needs a factory or some more gold econ cards.


Spanish faster cannon train card needed