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spinsane:

you guys need to stop, seriously. An admin really should lock this thread, the suggestions are just declining in quality. Somewhere in their card tree they need a villager or food trickle replacement, at that point Port is far from UP and would easily be just as strong as defensive booming as germany is at aggressive booming. There is nothing aside from that that would make any sense whatsoever.

The problem with the villagers card and most recently the trickle card is that Ports players have been asking for this 2 changes for a long time and they were never accepted by ES, so we started suggestion all that we could remenber (brainstorming post) so that we could in some other way convince ES to definitely boost Ports.

ES its not stupid...

ES do knows that ports are a bit UP... 

Иван Грозный:

ES its not stupid...

ES do knows that ports are a bit UP... 

I never said they were stupid.

It´s just that every patch that comes out Ports changes are minor changes. Last ones were needed but eco changes are the priority.

They need a Major boost than what they´ve been geting. 

Иван Грозный:

ES its not stupid...

ES do knows that ports are a bit UP... 

Yes, but nothing has changed. We're suggesting things here (some ideas are more or less bleh though..). That's not a problem.

Although keep them grounded to reality, like spinsane said.

Now that ES must be working in the new patch, let´s revive this thread.

Almost everyone agrees that Ports are UP.

With the Xpacks the Upness is even more clear. Ports almost don´t get a chance against OP japan, India and China.

This thread was kind of a brainstorming, many ideas that were posted here were considered retarded . . .but some were great and the others could be improved and ES could use them.

A414A | Incógnito :

China isn't OP. :S

China is balanced

A414A | Marlonsm:

A414A | Incógnito :

China isn't OP. :S

agreed, the OP civs are Japan, India and Aztec, and German is above average.

China is balanced

Azzy aren't OP though, they're same level as Germans.

(. . .Imo aztecs are OP. I hate playing against them. They can mass tons of warriors with little cost.)

But let´s keep the ports as the main reason this thread was created.

 Economy (few ideas...not all to be applied choose the best)

 Early eco is what "kills" Ports. They need a boost to compensate the lack of settlers cards.

 Food gathering bonus (similar to dutch for gold)

 Settlers cost reduced to 90 food or training time reduced.

 Trickle card (Ports are the only civ without it) perhaps House of bragança.

 Ports can train villies while aging up to colonial

Military

14 Musks card Age IV could turn into an 7 Musks Age II (In age IV ports already have 14, 16 and infinite 10 musks. This could help defend the colony.

24 Pikes Age IV turns into 8 pikes Age II

Cassadores attack increased 1 or 2 points.

Besteiros cost and ship number reduced.

1 Infantry upgrade moved to age III at least.

Defence

2 Outposts - 3 outposts

Extensive fortifications could be given to Ports. 

General changes

TC and outposts building time decreased

Useless / Ilogical cards in Ports Deck

House of Bragança

1 Covered wagon

Bandeirantes

White fleet

Ecomienda Manor < = Food Silos and is an Age II church tech

Tarkus:

Hello ES. I have a modest suggestion.

 The situation with Portuguese is that they have a weak early economy but can turtle efficiently.

To address this issue I suggest the following. Make 3 villagers a viable for Portuguese in Discovery Age. This will result in the following.

 1) You send 3 villagers instead of Colonial Militia.

2) Your early economy will be better, allowing you to compete with other civilizations in early Colonial Age.

3) Since you probably wont send Colonial Militia your turtle ability will be nerfed.

 
As additional suggestions I suggest that the infantry combat card are moved to Colonial Age to actually make Portuguese competitive in Colonial.

1) I never send colonial militia.. thats quite a noob card you know..

2) Your early eco will be better, but 2 minutes later ur opponent would say ur laming an OP civ... you know, 2 tcs boom isnt something that everyone has.

3) I dont see many people send in colonial militia and their turtle is still powerful.. thats like the worst card: once I see 16 militias out, I would back.. and u can chase me and kill 2 more units... but after that ur dead. 800 ressources wasted; then what? I come back and u call 16 out again?!?!? damit man: thats what i call SUCKS.

Port FF is quite powerful once its a succes. Cassadors push back ur army quite well and then its a 3 tcs boom. GG

IMO port is rather more a pro's civ: if u watch their records, they dont like to rush heavily (perhaps trying to disturb the other's eco with their army): just sit back and boom.. 

^CM also boosts the TC atk, making it enough to 1 hit strelets and russian musks.

and i don' think it's a noob card, it already saved me many times when i played Dutch