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so 20 sam vs 20 dop, which side will win?

samuria

doppelsoldners are a lot better than samurai, they are better at almost everything and would pown a samurai, also the doppelsoldner has more upgrades

Dopples would win but alot of them would be dead are almost dead so witht he adition of any other army the dopple would die, but dopple still beat samuri 20vs20

Doppers arent even the best unit in the game.

Samus have more splash damage, where as dopps have less.

thats the factor that will make samus own dopps no matter how many cards stats dopps have attached to them. 

 

kingofcurry69:

Doppers arent even the best unit in the game.

Samus have more splash damage, where as dopps have less.

thats the factor that will make samus own dopps no matter how many cards stats dopps have attached to them. 

 

no even tho they have splash they have 20 less attack and slash is only 4 or 6 not even, does nothing since dopples have 860 life any way and samuri only have 500 or so

you ppl are ridiculously silly and wrong, a brunch of privates and corporals most likely. get a clue. at least try them at editor. 

no way 20 dopple stand a chance against 20 samurais(if attack at same time) 

 20 samurai will slay 20 Dopp so easily that you wouldn't like to believe. 

 attack power speaking, dopple at peak + saolingen steel has 54ish, but samrui with all upgrades(include japan isolation + tower melee) will have 84ish attack power,

 dopp do have x1 more area demage and slightly more hit points but samurai has 0.30 damage resistance while dopp only has .20. that makes a huge difference. send dopp to melee combat the smaurai in equal number is no other than suicide. 

 

need blance:

you ppl are ridiculously silly and wrong, a brunch of privates and corporals most likely. get a clue plz. at least try them at editor. 

no way 20 dopple stand a chance against 20 samurais(if attack together) 

 20 samurai will slay 20 Dopp so easily that you wouldn't like to believe. 

 attack power speaking, dopple at peak + shaolinton steel has 54ish, but samrui with all upgrades(include japan isolation + tower melee) will have 84ish attack power,

 dopp do have x1 more area demage and slightly more hit points but samurai has 0.30 damage resistance while dopp only has .20. that makes a huge difference. send dopp to melee combat the smaurai in equal number is no other than suicide. 

 

hey do you play german how many times have you played german, how many times have you played against german, Dopples reach a 78 attack and as for samuri im speaking of the fully upgraded ones you build not hatimoto,and hatimoto are from export thus they are not easy to make wetch dopple are,dopple are better then ronin they are better then hatimoto also, they reach 820 life 78 attack x2 to heavy infrantry and x3 to calvery so since samuri are heavy infrantry he does 156 to them and since they only have around 500 550 health they lose, dont go commenting on we are lieing when you dont even know yourself idiot

and editer does not have the full states of every card and every little upgrade you can get so editer is wrong and it does not work when comparing

 

Dopplesoldners:

hey do you play german how many times have you played german, how many times have you played against german, Dopples reach a 78 attack and as for samuri im speaking of the fully upgraded ones you build not hatimoto,and hatimoto are from export thus they are not easy to make wetch dopple are,dopple are better then ronin they are better then hatimoto also, they reach 820 life 78 attack x2 to heavy infrantry and x3 to calvery so since samuri are heavy infrantry he does 156 to them and since they only have around 500 550 health they lose, dont go commenting on we are lieing when you dont even know yourself idiot

A few things wrong with your post there:

1) Doppelsoldners will never ever reach 78 attack. Samurais will though.

2). Doppelsoldners are not better than hatamoto samurais. Hatamotos are meant to be strong; you can only build a few of them.

3). Doppelsoldners do not reach 820 'life'/hp

4). They do not have a 2x bonus to heavy infantry.. they have a 2x bonus to light infantry though (which is things like coyote men, desciples, and rattan shields)

5). Samurais can get up to 700 HP, 550 is without upgrades..

6). He is not an idiot, he got it completely right

 

Fully upgraded samurais have an extra 20 attack compared to doppelsoldners, but slightly less hp.. The Samurai wins..

Samurai: about 650 HP, 80 attack, (or 700 HP, 70 attack)

Doppelsoldner: about 700 HP, 56 attack.

And, the Samurai has an extra 0.1 melee resist

 

So the answer to your question is, the Samurais would win fairly easily.

Skull>samurai>doppl.

Doppl anyway are supposed to be better against cavalry.

In late game doppls require many cards but once they're sent they keep their stats,samurai are prolly a bit better but once wonders ,daymo and shogun are gone they're weaker.

Anyway i think 2 area damage od doppls compensate his weaker attack against musks even if both uits lose against them.