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  •  05-02-2008, 1:46 AM 688280 in reply to 687518
    Wilson_teh_Great Wilson_teh_Great is online. Last active: 09-05-2008, 4:05 PM
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    Subject: Re: halo wars for pc!
    Rico The Great:
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    Halo Wars has been built from the ground up to work on the 360, guys, transferring it to PC would require large amounts of coding to be re-written. Unless there is a sizable market for Halo Wars on PC I highly doubt ES will bother.

    Don't get me wrong, I'd love it for PC, I am just being realistic.  

    The x box like other gaming consoles is basically a computer dedicated  to play games.  The games are made on computers and the prototypes are played on a computer first before they write them to play on the x box. So it would not be that hard to make it for a PC.

    The coding can't just have a few small modifications to it and then boom, games ready to hit the shelves. It has to be more or less rewritten.

    For example, in Halo Wars for Xbox 360 the camera position moves with the direction you push the joystick. On a PC, the camera position doesn't move until the mouse cursor moves to the edge of the screen. This is just a small example of how porting the game from system to system would not be as easy as you make it sound.


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  •  05-02-2008, 12:29 PM 688381 in reply to 688280
    Rico The Great Rico The Great is not online. Last active: 06-12-2008, 4:38 PM
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    Subject: Re: halo wars for pc!
    Wilson_teh_Great:
    Rico The Great:
    Wilson_teh_Great:

    Halo Wars has been built from the ground up to work on the 360, guys, transferring it to PC would require large amounts of coding to be re-written. Unless there is a sizable market for Halo Wars on PC I highly doubt ES will bother.

    Don't get me wrong, I'd love it for PC, I am just being realistic.  

    The x box like other gaming consoles is basically a computer dedicated  to play games.  The games are made on computers and the prototypes are played on a computer first before they write them to play on the x box. So it would not be that hard to make it for a PC.

     

    The coding can't just have a few small modifications to it and then boom, games ready to hit the shelves. It has to be more or less rewritten.

    For example, in Halo Wars for Xbox 360 the camera position moves with the direction you push the joystick. On a PC, the camera position doesn't move until the mouse cursor moves to the edge of the screen. This is just a small example of how porting the game from system to system would not be as easy as you make it sound.

    Your right it is not just a few small modifications, but when you have an office for of well trained game designers it really is not that hard.(my friend works for blizzard) The creation of the codes and templates for a new unique  game is the hard long part not modifying an already existing game to work on a different platform. 


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  •  05-02-2008, 12:32 PM 688383 in reply to 688381
    Kaarle_W Kaarle_W is not online. Last active: 08/03/2008, 5:59 AM
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    Subject: Re: halo wars for pc!
    Besides, I'm sure ES is ready to work for their money. Who wouldn't?

  •  05-02-2008, 6:50 PM 688505 in reply to 688274
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    Subject: Re: halo wars for pc!
    I'd love a Halo Wars for PC, why... Well because ALL ES games rules (more or less) for two reasons, rich gameplay and it's on PC. It's a lot funnier to play on PC, because the console will be outdated sooner or later if you don't save it. And you guys ever heard of LAN? If you want to fight piracy, then motivate the customers to BUY the game by adding internet play or like: "if ## copies sold, we will make a sequel"

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  •  05-02-2008, 7:29 PM 688513 in reply to 688381
    A414A | Marlonsm A414A | Marlonsm is not online. Last active: Fri, Sep 05 2008, 3:56 PM
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    Subject: Re: halo wars for pc!
    Rico The Great:
    Wilson_teh_Great:
    Rico The Great:
    Wilson_teh_Great:

    Halo Wars has been built from the ground up to work on the 360, guys, transferring it to PC would require large amounts of coding to be re-written. Unless there is a sizable market for Halo Wars on PC I highly doubt ES will bother.

    Don't get me wrong, I'd love it for PC, I am just being realistic.  

    The x box like other gaming consoles is basically a computer dedicated  to play games.  The games are made on computers and the prototypes are played on a computer first before they write them to play on the x box. So it would not be that hard to make it for a PC.

     

    The coding can't just have a few small modifications to it and then boom, games ready to hit the shelves. It has to be more or less rewritten.

    For example, in Halo Wars for Xbox 360 the camera position moves with the direction you push the joystick. On a PC, the camera position doesn't move until the mouse cursor moves to the edge of the screen. This is just a small example of how porting the game from system to system would not be as easy as you make it sound.

    Your right it is not just a few small modifications, but when you have an office for of well trained game designers it really is not that hard.(my friend works for blizzard) The creation of the codes and templates for a new unique  game is the hard long part not modifying an already existing game to work on a different platform. 

     

    once i've read that the X360 uses a SIMILAR coding than the PC, not the same 

    so it wouldn't be a complete rewrite

    but it wouldn't also be a find/replace, because even if it works, the game wouldn't be very optimized

     

    also, on X360, it's always the same hardware, but on PC, you need to make graphics that runs both on older comps AND has good graphics on high-end comps

     

    resuming, it'd take some time to make a PC version, but it isn't impossible
     




  •  05-03-2008, 1:17 AM 688601 in reply to 688513
    Kaarle_W Kaarle_W is not online. Last active: 08/03/2008, 5:59 AM
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    Subject: Re: halo wars for pc!
    ES wouldn't ignore a chance to make a considerable profit.

  •  05-10-2008, 11:50 AM 692033 in reply to 688601
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    Subject: Re: halo wars for pc!

    i think  ES isnt making it for PC cuz know that consle gamers would get pwnd in online play against PC ppl =)

     



  •  05-10-2008, 12:41 PM 692060 in reply to 688601
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    Subject: Re: halo wars for pc!

    Kaarle_W:
    ES wouldn't ignore a chance to make a considerable profit.

    Maybe that's why it's not for PC. The way they're doing may be that they're forcing people to buy a X360 if they really want to play Halo Wars, and we all know how much more X360 + Game costs to a single computer game.... 


  •  05-10-2008, 4:36 PM 692133 in reply to 692060
    Kaarle_W Kaarle_W is not online. Last active: 08/03/2008, 5:59 AM
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    Subject: Re: halo wars for pc!

    That wouldn't make much sense. If ES really expects gamers to buy both a new and an expensive console and a game just to be able to play the game, they're stupid. (I don't think they are)

    Look,

    Halo Wars would be nice to play, but you can survive without it. One way would be to buy the upcoming Starcraft II, for example. If one has to buy a brand new console at the price of about $300 (at the lowest) to be able to play a game, which you also need to buy, I'm quite sure that game wouldn't sell. People aren't ready to pay $350 for a game. They simply go for a cheaper solution, which in this case would definetely be Starcraft II.

    In addition, RTS games aren't as well-playable on a console as on PC. RTS for PC sells more. On consoles you play games like Halo and Halo 2, racing games, FPS, whatever... not really RTS, wouldn't you say?

    To conclude:

    Assuming people will spend over $300 on a game is only a pleasant fiction for game makers. -> ES would make more money if they released the game for PC.

     
    Based on these arguments and encouraged by the comment posted by MosheLevi, I dare say that I am quite convinced that Halo Wars, ladies and gentlemen, will sooner or later be released for PC. (The sooner the better, especially because the release date of Starcraft II is nearrrr)


  •  05-10-2008, 9:41 PM 692230 in reply to 692133
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    Subject: Re: halo wars for pc!

    Totally agreed


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  •  05-10-2008, 9:46 PM 692233 in reply to 686647
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    Subject: Re: halo wars for pc!
    Wilson_teh_Great:

    Halo Wars has been built from the ground up to work on the 360, guys, transferring it to PC would require large amounts of coding to be re-written. Unless there is a sizable market for Halo Wars on PC I highly doubt ES will bother.

    Don't get me wrong, I'd love it for PC, I am just being realistic.  

    No. 


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