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  •  05-17-2008, 5:43 PM 694328
    Chacalnegro Chacalnegro is not online. Last active: 08-28-2008, 2:02 AM
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    Subject: thanks ESO!!!!!! For dont make a balanced game!!!!

    im tired, firsth ottos then iros, then china, and french,now japs (really a bad job on the most expected pach).

    just see the games and all you see is japan civ all the time, they have a great army and a great econ, fast rush and powerfull army in late game so the guys that work in eso didnt heard the community. im a fan of the game but really im tired to play vs op civs all time the same thing.

    im angry all the time you let some civs op even when we told you that you gonna make japan op but you really didnt care.

    THANKS ESO THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!

    PD I DONT CARE MY ORTOGRAPHY SO DONT MENTION TO THAT, COZ I DONT GONNA SAY NOTHING ABOUT THAT

  •  05-17-2008, 5:50 PM 694331 in reply to 694328
    Kaarle_W Kaarle_W is not online. Last active: 08/03/2008, 5:59 AM
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    Subject: Re: thanks ESO!!!!!! For dont make a balanced game!!!!
    Play vanilla - it's nearly perfectly balanced.

  •  05-17-2008, 5:52 PM 694332 in reply to 694331
    Chacalnegro Chacalnegro is not online. Last active: 08-28-2008, 2:02 AM
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    Subject: Re: thanks ESO!!!!!! For dont make a balanced game!!!!
    LOL good idea but. i buy the asian dynasties for something!!!!!!
  •  05-17-2008, 6:01 PM 694336 in reply to 694332
    A414A | Marlonsm A414A | Marlonsm is not online. Last active: Sat, Sep 06 2008, 11:19 PM
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    Subject: Re: thanks ESO!!!!!! For dont make a balanced game!!!!

    go balance the game yourself to see if it's easy...

    or just play vanilla

    BTW, Japs are OP, i agree, but not to the point of making the game unplayable 




  •  05-17-2008, 6:21 PM 694346 in reply to 694328
    A414A | Goodspeed A414A | Goodspeed is not online. Last active: 06/09/2008, 7:34 PM
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    Subject: Re: thanks ESO!!!!!! For dont make a balanced game!!!!

    - balancing a game isn't quite easy, i'd like to see your nooby ass try, and this was the best aoe3 balance patch so far. balancing a game with 14 patches (vanilla) is something else than balancing it with 1 patch, and this one patch fixed a whole lot more than any one of those 14.

    -  let me give you a little lesson about balance issues. main point is that below captain/major level players do not know how to (ab)use a civ's OPness because they don't have the skill to perform the OP strategies optimally and lack adaptation/micro skill to use their armies optimally. a luitenant's japs are easily countered by any captain+ player for exactly this reason. hence OP or UPness does not exist below luitenant level. only if both players play a  near perfect game (say 2 iamgrunts face eachother) can be concluded whether or not a civ is OP.

    be honest, did you think of japs being OP yourself or did someone else tell you (who, in turn, got it from an expert)? balance issues only affect good players, and you are certainly not one of them. 

    now you could say japanese are an easier civ to win with on lower levels. this however does not make them OP, it just means they are somewhat easier to play than other civs, which indeed they are. how can ES fix this? that's right, they can't... if an easy civ is nerfed so that it will be harder to win with, it will be UP for experts and won't be played on higher levels; obviously, higher levels are all that matters, one can't mess up a game for the experts because noobs are complaining.

    take ottos and dutch, 2 clear examples of OP/UP hard/easy:
    dutch are a hard civ to play and back when they were OP, no noob complained about their OPness, only experts, because only experts were able to play the dutch perfectly and leave the opponent no chance of winning. now they got nerfed and on lower levels you'll hardly see them winning, while experts can still play them because they are now balanced.

    the ottos are exactly the other way around, they were UP but easy to play, which made them a popular civ among noobs, but barely played on higher levels because they couldn't win against opponents that knew how to counter them. this has also been fixed with patch and they're now more playable on expert level, which is what the patch is meant for.
     

    my point: as a master sergeant you encounter no balance issues and have no idea what you're talking about. all you could be complaining about is a civ's somewhat easier difficulty level, which makes it harder to counter. this is similar to OP or UPness, but cannot be fixed by ES by nerfing or boosting the civs in question for the reasons stated above. there is no solution and to play a more balanced game, you'll just have to get better.

    i'm not saying the game is 100% balanced, but balancing a game like aoe3 100% is impossible, because the civs are very different from one another which makes even the tiniest balance issues very hard to fix.

    btw nilla isn't perfectly balanced, spain is still OP and ports are UP.
     


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  •  05-17-2008, 7:22 PM 694356 in reply to 694346
    S̃ǻṃ  S̃ǻṃ  is not online. Last active: 05-31-2008, 4:30 AM
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    Subject: Re: thanks ESO!!!!!! For dont make a balanced game!!!!
    geez godspeed, u no wat yr talking about....

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  •  05-17-2008, 7:40 PM 694359 in reply to 694356
    EdyPegasus EdyPegasus is not online. Last active: 09-06-2008, 3:47 AM
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    Subject: Re: thanks ESO!!!!!! For dont make a balanced game!!!!
    LOL, french are fine, japan is a little OP and china is still a little OP(india with experts is OP too). I really do not know what you are talking about.

    The one and only. ~Pegasus~

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  •  05-17-2008, 8:17 PM 694367 in reply to 694359
    RasRas RasRas is not online. Last active: 09-07-2008, 12:33 AM
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    Subject: Re: thanks ESO!!!!!! For dont make a balanced game!!!!

    goodspeed is very right.

    i agree japan is op, but they are hard to do, and so is india, but you would never notice the small diffrences in balance.

    heck you probably wouldn't even know what cards are op and which are not if sum 1 didn't tell u. i barely notice, like take greathouse for example, it took experts like 4 patches before we noticed it was about 2x as good as any other such card...... 



  •  05-17-2008, 10:28 PM 694403 in reply to 694367
    JB_Xyooj JB_Xyooj is not online. Last active: 09-05-2008, 1:19 AM
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    Subject: Re: thanks ESO!!!!!! For dont make a balanced game!!!!
    what a crybaby lol.

    "To be beaten by the Chinese, whom was commanded by a Noob Field commander brings great shame to you and your nation."
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  •  05-17-2008, 11:52 PM 694411 in reply to 694403
    BHcataclysm BHcataclysm is not online. Last active: 09/03/2008, 11:59 AM
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    Subject: Re: thanks ESO!!!!!! For dont make a balanced game!!!!
    +1 goodspeed

  •  05-18-2008, 12:42 AM 694425 in reply to 694411
    dictator of world dictator of world is not online. Last active: 06-24-2008, 12:30 PM
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    Subject: Re: thanks ESO!!!!!! For dont make a balanced game!!!!

    I agree with goodspeed

     +1

  •  05-18-2008, 12:57 AM 694435 in reply to 694328
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