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  •  06-21-2008, 4:06 PM 710045
    Sporkupine Sporkupine is not online. Last active: 09-23-2008, 7:19 PM
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    Subject: how to beat the Russians in a 40 minute treaty.
    With the quick training times, he always seems to adapt to the unit type faster than me. I am pretty good with the Dutch, Ports, French, and Japs, but I am willing to use Empire, (save for the Ottomans). Thank you in advance. Big Smile

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  •  06-21-2008, 4:40 PM 710059 in reply to 710045
    AirGuitarHero AirGuitarHero is not online. Last active: 01-09-2009, 11:03 AM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the Russians in a 40 minute treaty.

    Well the thing with Russia is that they have crap RI (stretlets) so make your civs RI (skirmishers, cassadores, yumis etc.) to kill their muskets, halberdiers and stretlets.

    Back the RI up with light cav to kill any cossacks/oprinichs they throw at you.

    Build some mortars if you are a european civ to take down their annoying forts.

    If you like french just make gendarmes and skirmishers and it will own everything a russian can make (when used effectively)


  •  06-21-2008, 9:05 PM 710132 in reply to 710059
    Crazy.logik Crazy.logik is not online. Last active: 01-06-2009, 8:36 AM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the Russians in a 40 minute treaty.

    ottomans should not be that bad against russians, as they have the possibility to build with their janissarys. important is, that u always have some janissarys on the field, building up at the places the russian aint attacking atm. so try to constantly widen out ur map control. as fighting army use alot of those anti infantry guns with 2 pop the ottos have and to that some horsearchers. perhaps some mortars too for the forts. thats it. if the russian uses alot of artillery build some culverines.

    the most important thing is constantly building new buildings all around the map and have some villies in front too, that build up walls. so with this u should be able to push the russian more and more back and dont give him the room for fort hopping and oprichniks attacks. if u dont run out of ress, either he runs out of ress, or u will stand in front of his base and he will have to defend and a russian in defense sucks





  •  06-21-2008, 9:15 PM 710135 in reply to 710132
    El_tres El_tres is not online. Last active: 01/09/2009, 3:42 PM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the Russians in a 40 minute treaty.

    The only times I lose with Russia in treaty is when I have a seriously retarded teamate.  

  •  06-22-2008, 4:09 AM 710246 in reply to 710135
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the Russians in a 40 minute treaty.

    These are the units i would make against russians as the civs u listed:

    Dutch: Skirmishers to kill bulk of his army, ruyters to kill oprinichs, cossacks and grenadiers, hussars to kill grenadiers, stretlets and any artillery and mortars and a few halberds to kill his forts. But you are almost unbeatable when u attack a russian as all he can do is spam muskets or halberds at you which will get owned by skirmishers!

    Portugese: Cassadores will kill any of his infantry, dragoons and hussars to kill his artillery, and then mortars to knock down his forts.

    Japanese: if you use the card that turns all your gold into export, get about 20 hatamoto samurais before treaty is over, these will knock down his fort in seconds and kill anything if they get into hand combat. Make some ashigaru musketeers powered by a daiymo to kill almost any of his units and have a few nagitas to kill his artillery.

    French: as i said above, make skirmishers and gendarmes.


  •  06-22-2008, 4:19 AM 710250 in reply to 710246
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the Russians in a 40 minute treaty.
    russia has no chance vs japs and french if you play them goodBig Smile unless its a enojing opernick spammer then there is always a chance he get in but dont panick to fast when he get in opernicks die fast ports do also good coz they have long range motards easy to counter his forts with that :)
  •  06-22-2008, 6:16 PM 710495 in reply to 710250
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the Russians in a 40 minute treaty.
    Get spies is the best solution, you can kill any muskets you see that attempt to build fort near your base with cav. Make lots of walls, and always have some wood villes inside your base to repair walls. As soon Russian lose the first wave, assume you wall the other side(s) of your base, you can force them into defence which they suck at.
  •  06-23-2008, 10:12 AM 710776 in reply to 710495
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the Russians in a 40 minute treaty.
    only french can kill russia.. japs if u way better than opponent maybe, but equal opponent russia win.. Spain prob does the job too.

  •  06-28-2008, 3:54 AM 713488 in reply to 710059
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the Russians in a 40 minute treaty.
    this is what u must do, have about like 80 villagers on wood and than like 2 mins before treaty ends all of them back (80 number can be changed) than just keep doing stuff for military and hell run out of wood, easy right?no wood=no forts, no strelets, no extra buildings, no nothing, no plantation upgrades, no military upgrades, no cannon, no uhmmmmmmmm stuff

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  •  06-28-2008, 5:20 AM 713497 in reply to 713488
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the Russians in a 40 minute treaty.

    yohomes:
    this is what u must do, have about like 80 villagers on wood and than like 2 mins before treaty ends all of them back (80 number can be changed) than just keep doing stuff for military and hell run out of wood, easy right?no wood=no forts, no strelets, no extra buildings, no nothing, no plantation upgrades, no military upgrades, no cannon, no uhmmmmmmmm stuff

    he'd have his factories on wood so he would be able to afford at least some troops and upgrades or forts. and besides, he'd have more of the other resources than you. WAYYY more so you'd get owned by mass musks, halbs and cavalry.


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  •  06-29-2008, 7:21 PM 714157 in reply to 713497
    Kaicha Kaicha is not online. Last active: 01-05-2009, 11:19 AM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the Russians in a 40 minute treaty.

    Hey, i play as Russia, and usually i get over 15K wood before the time is up

     

    True that Russia needs lots of upgrades (practivally all the units, except maybe artillery ones), and that forts aer quite wood heavy, but don't ever try the Ottoman map controle thing. It just SUCKS

    Forts in 10 secs = massif map control!!

     If i can even get one Blockhouse or Fort up, your Jans are history. Even with 20 Barracks, your Jans will still be too slow, since with Ransack and all the upgrades, my Halbs burn as much as an Imperial Doppel (well i'm exagerating a little..) and your Jans take a lot of time to train (no fencing school...), so bye bye rax!

     

    As for Abus guns, keep in mind that Cossacks are 1 pop, so i can easily get 30-40 cavalrry units waiting while i fight you, and still not suffer too much damage. Oh, and due to Fort/BH map control, i usually get the natives, which is ~25% army boost.

     

    Trick: NEVER play a Russian in 1V1 NR40, unless you are confident you can counter him. Oh, and for massif cuicui spams, note that Cavalry archer just **** them, and supported by 4-5 Imperial canon, they just own you like hell. So don't Cuirassier spam (unless you're Vs a noob, who only knows to Musk)

     

    Finally, in team battles, Russia is still OP, since it makes TEAM instant HI, so teamed with a Japan, well lets just say you'll see more Ashigarus on the map than you wish!

     




  •  06-30-2008, 4:32 AM 714281 in reply to 714157