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  •  06-29-2008, 3:23 PM 714065 in reply to 714057
    yohomes yohomes is not online. Last active: 09-28-2008, 3:15 PM
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    Subject: Re: british muskets
    britian has 3 hc upgrades for musketeer

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  •  07-03-2008, 9:01 AM 715919 in reply to 713821
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    Subject: Re: british muskets
    The British Muskets are pretty gad but if u can get a large force of them they can ripe through pretty muck anything.... well except artillery.Big Smile
  •  07-03-2008, 10:17 AM 715965 in reply to 715919
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    Subject: Re: british muskets

    the british musketeers are just like the portuguese ones FU, if u dont use the red thin line upgrade from brits advanced church. the only other difference is that portuguese have to wait till they get to age 4 to upgrade their musketeers from HC.. 


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  •  07-03-2008, 11:08 AM 716003 in reply to 715965
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    Subject: Re: british muskets
    Lord Nikken:

    the british musketeers are just like the portuguese ones FU, if u dont use the red thin line upgrade from brits advanced church. the only other difference is that portuguese have to wait till they get to age 4 to upgrade their musketeers from HC.. 

    So that makes Brit ones better.... but an extra 38HP for 0.8 speed really isnt a fair trade...




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  •  07-03-2008, 11:26 AM 716010 in reply to 716003
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    Subject: Re: british muskets
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    Lord Nikken:

    the british musketeers are just like the portuguese ones FU, if u dont use the red thin line upgrade from brits advanced church. the only other difference is that portuguese have to wait till they get to age 4 to upgrade their musketeers from HC.. 

    So that makes Brit ones better.... but an extra 38HP for 0.8 speed really isnt a fair trade...

    red thin line only gives 20% HP boost, and -25% speed! its the spanish corset that gives the opposite. 25% hp, -20% speed. but the spanish one only applies to heavy infantry. so +30 hp and -1 speed? not worth it imo

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  •  07-03-2008, 11:28 AM 716011 in reply to 716010
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    Subject: Re: british muskets
    Lord Nikken:
    Nederlandse Gitaar Held:
    Lord Nikken:

    the british musketeers are just like the portuguese ones FU, if u dont use the red thin line upgrade from brits advanced church. the only other difference is that portuguese have to wait till they get to age 4 to upgrade their musketeers from HC.. 

    So that makes Brit ones better.... but an extra 38HP for 0.8 speed really isnt a fair trade...

    red thin line only gives 20% HP boost, and -25% speed! its the spanish corset that gives the opposite. 25% hp, -20% speed. but the spanish one only applies to heavy infantry. so +30 hp and -1 speed? not worth it imo

    Wow it sucks.... although it also affects longbows 19 extra HP for them isnt worth it either... if it increased resists as well by 25 or 50% then it would be interesting...




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  •  07-03-2008, 3:11 PM 716092 in reply to 716011
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    Subject: Re: british muskets

    It's funny, b/c one alliance with natives will give those muskt. a WAY bigger edge. like those improvments. ALSO: the portuguese imporovements are 1 with bot hitpoints, and attack, an attack, and a hitpoint one. is that what britain has?

     


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  •  07-04-2008, 4:42 PM 716676 in reply to 716092
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    Subject: Re: british muskets

    For Janissaries, why not make the Acemi Oglgan School card give -15% train points with -15% cost instead of just -20% cost? It will fix the training problem late game. I've actually tried this on scenario editor and it was very nice.

    I bet Britain has one of the most cost effective musks in the game, especially since the musk is one of the best unit types. 

     




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  •  07-04-2008, 4:55 PM 716678 in reply to 716676
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    Subject: Re: british muskets

    What are u talkind about the musk isnt the best unit type in the game

    5 janissaries can take on 10 musk and onl lose one guy

     

  •  07-04-2008, 5:12 PM 716689 in reply to 716678
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    Subject: Re: british muskets

    The British musketeers are good, as far as musketeers go. However, I'm more concerned about the extremely ridiculous strength of Ashigeru musketeers, and the astounding weakness of jannisaries compared to how they should be keeping in mind that ottomans have about half the economy of other civilisations. There must be thousands of topics similar to this, discussing actively something that shouldn't be discussed in comparison to other, more important topics.

    Furthermore, I would like to proclaim that there is no sense of truth in the following statement:

    "5 janissaries can take on 10 musk and only lose one guy"

    Perhaps if the jannisaries were imperial though...


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  •  07-04-2008, 6:21 PM 716700 in reply to 716689
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    Subject: Re: british muskets

    Most people continue to cry out and (correctly) identify many of Japan's units, specifically Ashigarus, as being far too overpowered.

    I really do want a solid explanation from *someone* from ES as to why they haven't balanced that out.




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  •  07-04-2008, 6:24 PM 716703 in reply to 716689
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    Subject: Re: british muskets
    jans are slightly better overall. better in melle mode, but muskt has MORE RANGED ATTACK than a jan. however, a jan. has 235 hp, while a muskt. has 150 health. That's why the ottoman only has a AGEII shipment of 5 jans, but brit and port has AGEII shipment of 6 muskt. with 1/5 addition of men,