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  •  07-04-2008, 5:59 PM 716697
    globemaster globemaster is not online. Last active: 08-23-2008, 7:16 AM
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    Subject: brit help
    i need help with the brits... ok so i was the brits and he was the japs and he kept on doing a yumi spam and killing  everything. so i made hussar and makeing all tht hussar erly in the game made my eco suck and then he just over ran me with the tons of yumi,so i lost. any help?? 

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  •  07-04-2008, 6:18 PM 716699 in reply to 716697
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    Subject: Re: brit help

    Use Longbowmen against Yumis, if you know how to boom you can easily outmass him.

    Remember that Yumis are NOT archers in practice, but definition only. They fire at the same rate as skirmishers, and so are extremely vulnerable to a well-executed manor boom with longbows.

    If he shifts to nags in colonial he's dead anyways, get pikes in front as a meatshield and let the longbows assist in bringing them down with suppressive fire.




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  •  07-04-2008, 6:52 PM 716720 in reply to 716699
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    Subject: Re: brit help

    actually hussars are the best counter for yumis, along with cannons, if you were on age 3.

    if he could beat your Hussars with yumis, you must have done something wrong, also, use the atack move when telling melee units to atack(hold z and left click), this way, all units won't try to hit only one of his units

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  •  07-04-2008, 7:17 PM 716741 in reply to 716720
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    Subject: Re: brit help
    s0me0ne-else:

    actually hussars are the best counter for yumis, along with cannons, if you were on age 3.

    That's assuming this all took place in Fortress. But in the early game, it's much more advisable to manor boom and use longbows (with pikes in case he cavs) to battle yumis. If you go hussars and he manages to rout back to his base and re-mass, then he can just send or make ashigarus and you'll have to change things up. A longbow-based British colonial army will beat just about anything Japan can send out. And hey, also keep in mind you can outmass him easily in the opening minute of direct combat.

    That is of course...if one goes with barracks units.




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  •  07-04-2008, 7:27 PM 716748 in reply to 716720
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    Subject: Re: brit help
    i guess i didnt boom correctly.... and he was able to spam yumis like crazy and was able to kill my hussar.... but i did make a dent in his army of yumis but he was able to just replace them and kill me cuz yumi are cheap and hussars kinda xpencive and train slower than yumi.

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  •  07-04-2008, 7:31 PM 716749 in reply to 716748
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    Subject: Re: brit help

    That's why manor booming with longbows is the best plan of action. You can get them out before he gets yumis, and get a batch of longbows and harass his settlers for a bit while his troops are training. Since those longbowmen have such good range, it's a matter of popping in and out of range of the Town Center and firing off a few shots now and then. Remember to kill his yumis whenever they finish training.

    Lastly, when you seem to be gaining the advantage, start making a few pikes (to maraud about the map and destroy his shrines) and some muskets (for ranged support and keeping nags at bay).

    Hit fortress and it's over.




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  •  07-05-2008, 8:01 AM 716968 in reply to 716749
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    Subject: Re: brit help

    I play brits and I rarely use lb vs japan. He can just pop up some naginatas and ur GG. Id suggest hussar-musk rush; it's alot more effective but it's rather harder to perform.

     

    PS. Outbooming a japan is practically impossible: think about it, he dont have iddle villagers and he's so hard to raid!

     PS2. One of Japan's greatest weakness is their slow start. Rush him HARD toward the 4:50.


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  •  07-05-2008, 11:00 AM 717081 in reply to 716968
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    Subject: Re: brit help
    TheLilRatchet:

    I play brits and I rarely use lb vs japan. He can just pop up some naginatas and ur GG. Id suggest hussar-musk rush; it's alot more effective but it's rather harder to perform.

     

    PS. Outbooming a japan is practically impossible: think about it, he dont have iddle villagers and he's so hard to raid!

     PS2. One of Japan's greatest weakness is their slow start. Rush him HARD toward the 4:50.

    Hence me mentioning pikes. You get some pikes out and have them kill the nags with longbows, there's no problem.

    Because the Japanese player has barracks, what's to stop him from getting out Ashigarus if he could, in that case, get naginatas as well? If he micros correctly those hussars are null and void, and those musketeers are absolutely dead.

    Brits can outboom Japan if you look at what I mentioned.

    Use the longbowmen to harass when possible. FORGET food villagers. Go for woodcutters and builders, and start the boom during the initial batch of longbows. If you cut a Japanese player off from wood, or at least slow him down, his power in the early game is severely reduced. No stables then. No consulate either, and shrines are slowed down from building.

    Plus, if he gets a daimyo, you can at least snipe him with longbowmen.




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  •  07-05-2008, 11:10 AM 717096 in reply to 717081
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    Subject: Re: brit help

    outbooming Japan is hard, but if someone can do it, it's the British(and maybe Dutch too), but one thing that works against Japan(as others said) is too keep pressure, try to chase his monks down, even with the smokescreen, you can at least bother him.

    also, use the lb's range to attack his vils from far, and run before he get a chance to fight back, burn down the shrines with musks/pikes.

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  •  07-05-2008, 11:59 AM 717148 in reply to 717096
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    Subject: Re: brit help
    I personally beleive that the only way to beat a japan 1 on 1 is to rush fast and hard looking to win right there. If you can not do this because its not easy with Brits to win fast, then u must keep pressure on shrines and maybe even try grenadiers with the improved grenadiers card will do well on Yumi. Furtherly, if possible get Advanced arsenal to upgrade Lbs hp in age 2 and also there is an upgrade for grenadiers in arsenal that make them stronger.

    Try grenadiers with the card and advanced arsenal tech 
  •  07-05-2008, 12:15 PM 717160 in reply to 717148
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    Subject: Re: brit help
    Mastermerm92:
    I personally beleive that the only way to beat a japan 1 on 1 is to rush fast and hard looking to win right there. If you can not do this because its not easy with Brits to win fast, then u must keep pressure on shrines and maybe even try grenadiers with the improved grenadiers card will do well on Yumi. Furtherly, if possible get Advanced arsenal to upgrade Lbs hp in age 2 and also there is an upgrade for grenadiers in arsenal that make them stronger.

    Try grenadiers with the card and advanced arsenal tech 

    Or not...

    Manor Boom and mass longbows. If he gets Naginatas, ull have had time to boom whilst he transitions and u can easily switch to musks. Most likely he wont be raiding much, Japs dont really raid much in Colonial. If he then decides to FF, just mass musks and rush his shrines/barracks. By the time he ages he wont have enough pop/buildings to take advantage of it.




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