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  •  07-21-2008, 8:50 PM 725984
    Blowgunner Blowgunner is not online. Last active: 03-13-2009, 2:07 PM
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    Subject: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush

    Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush

    Everyone knows of the 20 Jan rush. Noobs get bashed by it, and expert players defeat it so easily it’s UP now.

    This strat gives another angle from which to use the ottomans. When a Good player sees a Rax, he usually assumed you are Spam-Jan-ing. From this deception, we could make heavy Calvary instead. This works against any civ. with a L.I. unit.

    Send: 3 settlers/chp TP;, 700 wood, 3 hussars, and a resource crate if you can’t get 8 hussars right away.

    Do not expect to use Sphai’s as these are in the 3rd age. If he makes muskt’s, make Abus from ur AF, then destroy his houses before you go to town on his TC.

    Need 700 wood total- use the shipment- AF, RAX, and STABLE, and 5 houses(beginning 500 wood)

    8 hussars, 4 grenadiars, (and mabye 5 extra Abus)

    After taking out his army which will be Bantha-Fodder for your calvary, make some grenadiers, and use your Calv. to hunt down the rest of his settlers he has hidden somewhere.

    How’s this strategy? Does it suck eggs, or can it possibly work? Tell me something. Related to the topic. And no snide remarks. At least no snide remarks that arent funny.


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  •  07-21-2008, 10:04 PM 726001 in reply to 725984
    JB_Xyooj JB_Xyooj is not online. Last active: 11-24-2008, 12:25 AM
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    Subject: Re: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush
    Hmm I would still prefer my Jani/Abu rush.

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  •  07-21-2008, 10:13 PM 726003 in reply to 726001
    Blowgunner Blowgunner is not online. Last active: 03-13-2009, 2:07 PM
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    Subject: Re: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush

    JB_Xyooj:
    Hmm I would still prefer my Jani/Abu rush.

    yes, i agree. of course that route is much easier and better! no, really, this is for like higher players. something different for use vs players who can kill the jan rush easily. Practiced and really good players who spend as much time planning as they do playing.


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  •  07-21-2008, 10:15 PM 726005 in reply to 726003
    Blowgunner Blowgunner is not online. Last active: 03-13-2009, 2:07 PM
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    Subject: Re: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush
    PS: not me. or you. well maybe you. Im not that great.

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  •  07-24-2008, 11:34 AM 726980 in reply to 726005
    Kaicha Kaicha is not online. Last active: 05-17-2009, 5:21 PM
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    Subject: Re: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush

    Not great, because you lose a lot of wood for nothing, and you'll lose a lot of VS walking to a hidden part of the map to build an AF and a stable. Also this strat takes quite some pop, and limits your numbers due to heavy coin demand.

     I prefer doing a 5 jan-hussar rush, which is better since you totally surprise your enemy, then go abus-jan, which is great,since your cavalry can raid while you switch. And food is geenrated about 40% faster from hunts than gold from mines Jans being food heavy, it's better imo ^^




  •  07-31-2008, 6:16 PM 730151 in reply to 726980
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    Subject: Re: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush
    Isn't a hussar a light calvary? And besides that going calvary early on is so easy to beat it isn't funny, and with the cost of abus you cant just pop out 5 quick and dandy in a heavy situation.
  •  07-31-2008, 6:21 PM 730153 in reply to 730151
    Иван Грозный Иван Грозный is not online. Last active: 20-10-2008, 3:18 PM
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    Subject: Re: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush

    psyopus:
    Isn't a hussar a light calvary?

    no.

    Heavy cav = Hussars, cuirrassiers, cossacks, or any other hand cavalry (also rifle riders).

    Light cav = Dragoons, cavalry archer, ruyters, or any other cavalry that got ranged attack (including rifle riders).


  •  07-31-2008, 9:20 PM 730204 in reply to 725984
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    Subject: Re: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush
    cool some nice strats guys thanks
  •  07-31-2008, 9:46 PM 730226 in reply to 730153
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    Subject: Re: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush
    Иван Грозный:

    psyopus:
    Isn't a hussar a light calvary?

    no.

    Heavy cav = Hussars, cuirrassiers, cossacks, or any other hand cavalry (also rifle riders).

    Light cav = Dragoons, cavalry archer, ruyters, or any other cavalry that got ranged attack (including rifle riders).

    I think they should change the description of hussar, because it is now something along the lines of "light cavalry armed with cold steel", which would imply it is light cavalry


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  •  07-31-2008, 11:14 PM 730283 in reply to 730226
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    Subject: Re: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush

    "Heavy cav = Hussars, cuirrassiers, cossacks, or any other hand cavalry (also rifle riders).

    Light cav = Dragoons, cavalry archer, ruyters, or any other cavalry that got ranged attack (including rifle riders)."

    During the Battle of Balaclava in the Crimean War in 1854 a contingent of light horse under a mistaken relay of orders attacked up a long valley into artillery and were decimated (well at 118 out of 673 killed a little more than decimated, which is literally is only 1/10th causalities.)

    The Light Brigade consisted of the 4th and 13th Light Dragoons, 17th Lancers, and the 8th and 11th Hussars and was actually sent to retrieve some captured British guns but attacked the main emplaced Russian batteries instead under a mis-relay of orders. Even then they may have fared better had they charged, rather than slowly trotted up the valley, giving the gunners time to train their weapons.

    The Heavy Brigade of horse which was composed of the 4th Royal Irish Dragoon Guards, the 5th Dragoon Guards, the 6th Inniskilling Dragoons and the Scots Greys (carabineers) was held back by its commander as he saw no sense in getting two brigades killed. Though a very reasonable assumption to make, in hindsight this was a mistake as with the support of the Heavy the Light would have probably actually taken the Russian guns that day.

    As rifles and ammunition are heavier than swords and lances the game actually has it backwards: hand cavalry should be light and ranged cavalry heavy. Light cavalry tactics are to hit and run, whereas heavy cavalry can stand and fight for a more extended period of time. Another version of cavalry is light horse infantry, which are actually infantry who ride into battle on horses, dismount, and then fight on foot. The US Cavalry in the Indian wars acted thusly and were more mounted infantry than cavalry per se.

  •  08-03-2008, 4:38 PM 731810 in reply to 730283
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    Subject: Re: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush

    Right... er... well I could have sworn that when you put the mouse over a hussar, it says "Hussar:Light cavalry" But I agree, it makes more sense that Uhlans and cossacks should be considered light cav, while hussars and lancers are medium cav, and gendames and spahis (historically called sipahis) are heavy cav. But it is not this way for some reason.... I'm pretty certain that Hussars are considered light cav and lancers, gendames, spahis are heavy.


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  •  08-03-2008, 4:43 PM 731814 in reply to 730283
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    Subject: Re: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush
    Metis:

    "Heavy cav = Hussars, cuirrassiers, cossacks, or any other hand cavalry (also rifle riders).

    Light cav = Dragoons, cavalry archer, ruyters, or any other cavalry that got ranged attack (including rifle riders)."

    During the Battle of Balaclava in the Crimean War in 1854 a contingent of light horse under a mistaken relay of orders attacked up a long valley into artillery and were decimated (well at 118 out of 673 killed a little more than decimated, which is literally is only 1/10th causalities.)

    The Light Brigade consisted of the 4th and 13th Light Dragoons, 17th Lancers, and the 8th and 11th Hussars and was actually sent to retrieve some captured British guns but attacked the main emplaced Russian batteries instead under a mis-relay of orders. Even then they may have fared better had they charged, rather than slowly trotted up the valley, giving the gunners time to train their weapons.

    The Heavy Brigade of horse which was composed of the 4th Royal Irish Dragoon Guards, the 5th Dragoon Guards, the 6th Inniskilling Dragoons and the Scots Greys (carabineers) was held back by its commander as he saw no sense in getting two brigades killed. Though a very reasonable assumption to make, in hindsight this was a mistake as with the support of the Heavy the Light would have probably actually taken the Russian guns that day.

    As rifles and ammunition are heavier than swords and lances the game actually has it backwards: hand cavalry should be light and ranged cavalry heavy. Light cavalry tactics are to hit and run, whereas heavy cavalry can stand and fight for a more extended period of time. Another version of cavalry is light horse infantry, which are actually infantry who ride into battle on horses, dismount, and then fight on foot. The US Cavalry in the Indian wars acted thusly and were more mounted infantry than cavalry per se.

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  •  08-05-2008, 7:23 PM 732860 in reply to 731814
    Xar_Kaidra Xar_Kaidra is not online. Last active: 08/17/2008, 1:47 PM
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    Subject: Re: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush

    Half a League, half a league, half a league onward doesn't ring a bell?

    Charge of the Light brigade man, the poem tells it better. Check it out on Wikipedia or something.
     

  •  08-05-2008, 7:51 PM 732870 in reply to 732860
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    Subject: Re: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush

    The game has heavy and light cav named as they do for balance reasons. If counter cav were slower that anti-inf cav, they would be retarded and worthless. To go along with, the name light cav should go with the faster cav, and vice versa.

    In addition, the armor worn by cav would have a greater effect on speed than the use or rifles over swords and lances. If we assume resistance and HP represent armor, hussars, lancers and cuirassiers would thus be the heavier cav.

  •  08-05-2008, 8:30 PM 732876 in reply to 732870
    minish teh monkey minish teh monkey is not online. Last active: 09-07-2008, 1:45 AM
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    Subject: Re: Ottoman Heavy Calvary Rush

    Isn't the hussar light cav?

    Also early on pikeman are dirtcheap and would crush your hussars since theyr fairly cheap early on most players would be able to afford at least 1 or 2 of them.


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