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  •  10-09-2008, 4:15 PM 761223
    wazzal wazzal is not online. Last active: 01-06-2009, 6:58 AM
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    Subject: Japan issue

    I think that a good nerf would be lowering the shrine gather rates back to how they were, move ashigaru to age 3 (take out 5 ashi card and move [ashi attack] card to age 3) and give samurais increased hp.

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  •  10-09-2008, 4:42 PM 761228 in reply to 761223
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    Subject: Re: Japan issue
    Ashigaru must be walking to same rythm to our "Wololo" bud...
  •  10-09-2008, 4:47 PM 761230 in reply to 761228
    wazzal wazzal is not online. Last active: 01-06-2009, 6:58 AM
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    Subject: Re: Japan issue

    Minato:
    Ashigaru must be walking to same rythm to our "Wololo" bud...

    W-T-F? Wololo? dude?, i dunno where u come from with ur "Wololo" ritual ***, but seriously, plz try to make sense when u post...thanks in advance


  •  10-09-2008, 4:51 PM 761232 in reply to 761230
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    Subject: Re: Japan issue
    WOLOLO!



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  •  10-09-2008, 4:58 PM 761236 in reply to 761230
    Minato Minato is not online. Last active: Nov 25, 2008, 11:08 AM
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    Subject: Re: Japan issue
    don't you remember to our wololo friend?Surprise
  •  10-09-2008, 5:04 PM 761239 in reply to 761236
    wazzal wazzal is not online. Last active: 01-06-2009, 6:58 AM
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    Subject: Re: Japan issue
    no sry, can't say i do

  •  10-09-2008, 5:17 PM 761250 in reply to 761223
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    Subject: Re: Japan issue

    Japan would have then horrible age 2 cav counter since, samurais are slow, and they got low bonus vs cavalry, and ashigarus would still be OP in late game, and the civ would still be OP, also the change its kinda stupid, since, then japan would be the only civ that got musks in fortress even though some civs got musks more powerfull than the ashigaru (just if being compared by its original stats).

    IMO, No.


  •  10-09-2008, 5:31 PM 761264 in reply to 761250
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    Subject: Re: Japan issue
    Иван Грозный:

    Japan would have then horrible age 2 cav counter since, samurais are slow, and they got low bonus vs cavalry, and ashigarus would still be OP in late game, and the civ would still be OP, also the change its kinda stupid, since, then japan would be the only civ that got musks in fortress even though some civs got musks more powerfull than the ashigaru (just if being compared by its original stats).

    IMO, No.

    Yeah. I would say the Ashigaru Unpgarded its the weakess Must, thats stringer than a Normal Mustkeeter.

     

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  •  10-09-2008, 6:17 PM 761277 in reply to 761264
    gooback gooback is not online. Last active: 10-19-2008, 8:55 PM
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    Subject: Re: Japan issue
    Timrio:
    Иван Грозный:

    Japan would have then horrible age 2 cav counter since, samurais are slow, and they got low bonus vs cavalry, and ashigarus would still be OP in late game, and the civ would still be OP, also the change its kinda stupid, since, then japan would be the only civ that got musks in fortress even though some civs got musks more powerfull than the ashigaru (just if being compared by its original stats).

    IMO, No.

    Yeah. I would say the Ashigaru Unpgarded its the weakess Must, thats stringer than a Normal Mustkeeter.

     

    And of Corse. The Fuilser is the best. Smile

    actually, fusiliers are weaker than highlandersStick out tongue

    Ashi attack can be moved to age 3, but the big problem is shrines IMO, and removing the 5 ashi card would be a bad idea, I would personally just nerf Ashis


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  •  10-09-2008, 6:50 PM 761278 in reply to 761277
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    Subject: Re: Japan issue
    Ashigara needs age 2 becasue 1 they wouldnt have and gunpowder unit in age 2 (They need a variety of infantry since their limeted) and they cost more then a regular which balances it

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  •  10-09-2008, 8:10 PM 761292 in reply to 761278
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    Subject: Re: Japan issue

    Niz:
    Ashigara needs age 2 becasue 1 they wouldnt have and gunpowder unit in age 2 (They need a variety of infantry since their limeted) and they cost more then a regular which balances it

    ashis are not balanced, because with daimyo, golden pavillion (upgrades and/or configured to increase attack of ranged units), and ashi upgrade card, and 10% attack from consulate, they have age 2 musks with 50 attack or something like that, and not to mention their 4.5 speed which makes it hard to impossible to micro with skirms or x-bow (unless its strelets or another fast skirm)


    Do you use the word "pretentious" in a pretentious manner? The belief of "pretentious" being pretentious might itself be pretentious, but that would than further go to prove that the word "pretentious" is pretentious.
  •  10-11-2008, 6:17 PM 761814 in reply to 761292
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    Subject: Re: Japan issue
    I think this would balance Japan:

    Japan

    • Shrine cost increased from 125 to 160, supports 15 population instead of 10, and build limit reduced from 20 to 13.

    • Ashigaru hit points reduced from 170 to 110, hand resistance increased from 0.20% to 0.30%, and cost reduced from 80 food 40 coin to 65 food 35 coin. Train Points reduced accordingly (-15.625%).