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  •  10-09-2008, 7:09 PM 761284
    MrMusketeer MrMusketeer is not online. Last active: 10-10-2008, 10:51 PM
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    Subject: Fusiliers and highlanders

    I find these two units too powerful for their pop.

    I'll do highlander right now, I'm a little tired. I'll do it later.

    Consider it done.

    Right.

    I'll do it.

    Me Misson.

    I found it.

    On a picture.

    Anyways, highlander is OP for 2 freaking pop.

    Guess what.

    1 highlander > 1 spahi

    it takes two cuirassiers to kill a highlander.

    it takes 5 crossbowmen to kill a highlander.

    It takes 6 steppe riders to kill a highlander. 5 steppe riders if the highlander doesn't shoot, and the last steppe rider has like 1/10th of his hp left.

    Artillery doesn't work, highlanders have mega hand damage too.

    It takes 3 sepoys to beat a highlander.

    I actually lost a game because highlanders were way too hard to kill. I managed to kill 15 of this brit's settlers, yet he kept on going, and I had a never-ending settler production ( I swear, I never stopped making settlers ). I attacked at 6ish minutes with 5 uhlans and crossbowmen.

    At 8, I found the place on the top of the map of Great Plains where he had his settlers gathering wood. That's where I got the settler killing spree.

    Yet he kept going on, aged to age 3, and plopped out the stupid highlander card. They sliced through my army of 20ish crossbowmen and 4 uhlans ( from shipments ). However, he had assistance from like 7 longbowmen, which I slaughtered with my uhlans, but his highlanders kept slaughtering my xbows. I resigned and said GG, because he destroyed my TC in about a minute with the highlander's crazy attack (it's 3x the regular musketeer, yet only costs 2 pop).


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    Janissary
    Yumi
    Ashigaru
    Samurai
    Yabasume
    Naginata rider
    Daimyo
    Flaming Arrow
    Arrow knight
    Jaguar prowl knight
    Cuirassier
    Oprichinik
    Flying Crow (they suck)
    Abus gun
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  •  10-09-2008, 7:32 PM 761287 in reply to 761284
    RasRas RasRas is not online. Last active: 01-08-2009, 11:57 PM
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    Subject: Re: Fusiliers and highlanders

    fusilier are not too good at all, he costs 300 gold and he just doesn't have enough hits to be op.

     

    highlander is good, but you have to remember

    1-spy will kill him fairly easily

    2-he is not always availible at saloon, so you can only rely on the shipment of him. 

     

    o and judging by your signature this probably isn't your first "op" post. 


  •  10-09-2008, 8:08 PM 761289 in reply to 761287
    gooback gooback is not online. Last active: 10-19-2008, 8:55 PM
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    Subject: Re: Fusiliers and highlanders

    better than fusiliers, 63 attack vs. 70, which is in favour of the fusilier, but the highlander has 400 hitpoints to the fusiliers 300, so fusilier didnt need to be mentioned here

    you didnt mention how many skirms it takes to kill a fusilier, seeing as Germans get Royal guard skirms, you should compare the highlanders to skirms, as skirms are their counter, or WW if you have a good micro, hand cav are meant to lose to skirms, and x-bow are just to weak to have a good change, even with the extra 4 range, just get skirms, or ship in jaegers, 10 jaegers > 9 highlanders


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  •  10-09-2008, 8:08 PM 761290 in reply to 761287
    1x1 1x1 is not online. Last active: Thu, Jan 08 2009, 6:02 PM
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    Subject: Re: Fusiliers and highlanders
    Fusilier really sucks, the only thing useful for it is to kill LC. Highlanders aren't OP at all. You think steppe riders should beat highlanders? Sure! Lets increase their attack to 100 and give them 1000 hp with a bonus to HI and LC. That will put the highlanders in their place.

    Mantlets first are wood heavy units, and die fast from ranged inf..



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  •  10-09-2008, 8:09 PM 761291 in reply to 761284
    Timrio Timrio is not online. Last active: 11-22-2008, 9:48 PM
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    Subject: Re: Fusiliers and highlanders
    MrMusketeer:

    I find these two units too powerful for their pop.

    I'll do highlander right now, I'm a little tired. I'll do it later.

    Consider it done.

    Right.

    I'll do it.

    Me Misson.

    I found it.

    On a picture.

    Anyways, highlander is OP for 2 freaking pop.

    Guess what.

    1 highlander > 1 spahi

    it takes two cuirassiers to kill a highlander.

    it takes 5 crossbowmen to kill a highlander.

    It takes 6 steppe riders to kill a highlander. 5 steppe riders if the highlander doesn't shoot, and the last steppe rider has like 1/10th of his hp left.

    Artillery doesn't work, highlanders have mega hand damage too.

    It takes 3 sepoys to beat a highlander.

    I actually lost a game because highlanders were way too hard to kill. I managed to kill 15 of this brit's settlers, yet he kept on going, and I had a never-ending settler production ( I swear, I never stopped making settlers ). I attacked at 6ish minutes with 5 uhlans and crossbowmen.

    At 8, I found the place on the top of the map of Great Plains where he had his settlers gathering wood. That's where I got the settler killing spree.

    Yet he kept going on, aged to age 3, and plopped out the stupid highlander card. They sliced through my army of 20ish crossbowmen and 4 uhlans ( from shipments ). However, he had assistance from like 7 longbowmen, which I slaughtered with my uhlans, but his highlanders kept slaughtering my xbows. I resigned and said GG, because he destroyed my TC in about a minute with the highlander's crazy attack (it's 3x the regular musketeer, yet only costs 2 pop).

    Nice Exagerateing.

     

    The Highlander isn't OP. Its because your to Lazy To Micro.


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  •  10-09-2008, 10:22 PM 761330 in reply to 761287
    TheLilRatchet TheLilRatchet is not online. Last active: 11-08-2008, 6:25 PM
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    Subject: Re: Fusiliers and highlanders
    " The problem isnt that fusiliers suck too much, it's the highlander who's too strong"

    aka Jack Bones, 1647 Hall o'Famer

  •  10-10-2008, 6:54 PM 761498 in reply to 761330
    gooback gooback is not online. Last active: 10-19-2008, 8:55 PM
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    Subject: Re: Fusiliers and highlanders

    TheLilRatchet:
    " The problem isnt that fusiliers suck too much, it's the highlander who's too strong"

    why doesnt anyone rush the FFer so he doesnt have any highlanders to deal with in the first place??


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  •  10-10-2008, 7:12 PM 761522 in reply to 761498
    Иван Грозный Иван Грозный is not online. Last active: 20-10-2008, 3:18 PM
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    Subject: Re: Fusiliers and highlanders

    not always you can beat a FF with a rush, and its possible that he will still get fortress...

    Also, how much irnoic, highlanders are mercenaries that cant be obtained until 3rd age, can be done in a very few occasions, cant be upgraded to imperial, and get fucked by spies...

    Thats enough to make them balanced.

    Also, learn to micro, or just build spies, noob.


  •  10-10-2008, 7:18 PM 761531 in reply to 761522
    gooback gooback is not online. Last active: 10-19-2008, 8:55 PM
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    Subject: Re: Fusiliers and highlanders
    well hes talking about a british, you should generally rush british either way

    Do you use the word "pretentious" in a pretentious manner? The belief of "pretentious" being pretentious might itself be pretentious, but that would than further go to prove that the word "pretentious" is pretentious.
  •  10-11-2008, 9:28 AM 761630 in reply to 761284
    polydeuces polydeuces is not online. Last active: 12/07/2008, 5:45 PM
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    Subject: Re: Fusiliers and highlanders

    They breed them tough in the highlands, don't they?

     

    I find it quite funny that to prove your point, you've given three cases with the highlanders Vs units they're supposed to counter. As for crossbowmen, they're only meant to be used until you can get skirmishers, which can hit and run, and kill highlanders depressingly quickly.

    And artillery does work, unless you decide to use culverins. Ok, it takes a falconet two shots but highlanders aren't quick enough to dodge round intervening troops to get to the cannons in time.

     

    Brits can have a crazy amount of villagers by 8 minutes if left unchecked, and killing off lumberjacks isn't going to affect him ageing and shipping highlanders, which need gold or food.
     

  •  10-11-2008, 10:21 AM 761651 in reply to 761630
    gooback gooback is not online. Last active: 10-19-2008, 8:55 PM
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    Subject: Re: Fusiliers and highlanders
    polydeuces:

    Brits can have a crazy amount of villagers by 8 minutes if left unchecked, and killing off lumberjacks isn't going to affect him ageing and shipping highlanders, which need gold or food.

    thats why you rush well before 8:00


    Do you use the word "pretentious" in a pretentious manner? The belief of "pretentious" being pretentious might itself be pretentious, but that would than further go to prove that the word "pretentious" is pretentious.
  •  10-11-2008, 12:08 PM 761673 in reply to 761651
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