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  •  03-30-2009, 6:04 PM 800453 in reply to 800435
    StrategicJoeL StrategicJoeL is not online. Last active: 11-11-2012, 4:23 PM
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat

    [q]it's not uncounterable though... why do you think experts don't use it in tournaments? you lose vill seconds by walking all the way across the map and your opponent has most likely started herding already anyway. also theres the danger of MM if you overdo it (with 2 or more vills).[/q]

     I never said it's uncounterable. It's not a magic strat. BTW FYI an expert will probably PWN you anyways, so don't use that argument.


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  •  03-30-2009, 6:05 PM 800454 in reply to 800435
    StrategicJoeL StrategicJoeL is not online. Last active: 11-11-2012, 4:23 PM
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat

    [q]you win by being a ***[/q]

     

    yep, and it's fun!


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  •  03-30-2009, 6:06 PM 800455 in reply to 800435
    StrategicJoeL StrategicJoeL is not online. Last active: 11-11-2012, 4:23 PM
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat
    BTW, of course i'm arrogant. why else would I have begun this post with "greetings noobs."

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  •  03-30-2009, 6:24 PM 800461 in reply to 800455
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat
    grrr okay time to do the whats your eso acct name check to find out if hes actually above corporal



  •  03-30-2009, 6:31 PM 800464 in reply to 800461
    StrategicJoeL StrategicJoeL is not online. Last active: 11-11-2012, 4:23 PM
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat
    dont bother, i don't even own this game, i only have the TWC trial.

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  •  03-30-2009, 7:04 PM 800479 in reply to 800464
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat

    StrategicJoeL:
    dont bother, i don't even own this game, i only have the TWC trial.

    point proven. You have only played one map, and you have only ever played the Germans or the Iriqous, the strat sucks, I could counter that when I was a private. Goodspeed is the best AOE3 player on these entire forums too, just thought you should know that.


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  •  03-30-2009, 7:43 PM 800498 in reply to 800435
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat

    Sorry to say but I also don't agree with your strat for the following reasons:

    Your strat goes off the assumption that your opponent decideds to stay in his base only gathering from his first hunt without scouting.

    Most good players will send 1 villager to each herd close to their base and start shooting the animals back.  So as soon as he sees your villager he knows what you are doing.  Immediately I would get my explorer over there to see what your doing/attacking your villagers.  If you decide to send 2 or more settlers I would not be scared to send MM, or even if i notice you building a rax I would send MM.  Now your down in villagers, have failed to set up your FB, and are lower in resources because you spent your time walking across the map to gather from my hunts.  The other problem is that you have now become very easy to raid.  It is not worth it for you to set up a tower in every hunt you are trying to kill/push away from my base, so I would send a cav shipment first and race around the map going to every dead animal I see and kill off your settlers.  Also I am guarenteed to age faster than you because I spent my time gathering while you spent yours walking across the map, so my cav shipment comes out probably faster than you can even get your rax up.  Then your really screwed.

    Another problem with this is that TC fire rapes villagers, and imo Germans are horrible for this start.  Every time I kill 1 settler wagon you lose 2 villagers.  French are the only viable one for doing this because they can at least fight if they have to.  

    You age up with a SW, 400 wood should always be your age up....

    Also against certain civs you a really screwed for example any native civ with fast age up,/building warhut in age 1 or if he attempts a sepoy 10/10, or if he is japan and is gathering from berries or his russia and can get his blockhouse up in age 1 etc.   This is extremely map and civ dependent.

    This strat might work on the noob level and I like the idea of early pressure and containment, but sry to say I really don't think your strat works Sad 


  •  03-30-2009, 7:47 PM 800500 in reply to 800479
    StrategicJoeL StrategicJoeL is not online. Last active: 11-11-2012, 4:23 PM
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat

    "the strat sucks, I could counter that when I was a private."

     

    yeah, anyone can counter this if they find out what going on. you just bring out MM or do a very early rush on him.

    Your supposed to use your explorer to shoot his vills, and distract him. He probably won't notice until at least colonial, and by then you will have an army to raid him, and defend yourself. You seriously should try this before bashing it. At least some players realize that this strat can be awesome if its done right. sure there are counters, but duh. which strat has no counter? give me one example.


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  •  03-30-2009, 8:05 PM 800501 in reply to 800500
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat
    StrategicJoeL:

    "the strat sucks, I could counter that when I was a private."

     

    yeah, anyone can counter this if they find out what going on. you just bring out MM or do a very early rush on him.

    Your supposed to use your explorer to shoot his vills, and distract him. He probably won't notice until at least colonial, and by then you will have an army to raid him, and defend yourself. You seriously should try this before bashing it. At least some players realize that this strat can be awesome if its done right. sure there are counters, but duh. which strat has no counter? give me one example.

    I dont know why I bother, but here it goes. If your opponent knows what he is doing, he will herd his hunts towards his TC, and if you get close to him, his 10 villagers will garrison inside the TC, and your settler will take 2 hits before dying. Also, a settler can beat an explorer 1 v 1 in melle, just to put that out there. The strat is horrible, and it will never work. Sorry to be so harsh, but someone who doesn't play online wouldn't understand, as the AI is stupid. A player at my level would counter this strat 100% of the time, so no, I will not try it.


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  •  03-30-2009, 8:11 PM 800505 in reply to 800500
    StrategicJoeL StrategicJoeL is not online. Last active: 11-11-2012, 4:23 PM
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat
    thanks for thinking this through Lancelot. It is indeed true that this strat will not work against certian civs (rushing civs) or on certain maps (like where your seperated by water.) Your explorer should be able to find out whether or not the dude has herded both hunts near his TC. And sometimes, if your fast enough to distract him with your explorer, he might forget about herding :). still though, yes, this does not work against everyone and you need a backup plan (example: your opponent is ottoman, and he has herded both herds in TC range).

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  •  03-30-2009, 8:15 PM 800508 in reply to 800505
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat
    it takes an explore over a minute to kill a settler, and decent player will ignore your explorer and your screwed. There are no ifs buts or maybes. The only effective strategy that every worked where you started attacking your opponent in discovery was the China disciple rush bufore they were nerfed in v 1.01

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  •  03-30-2009, 8:23 PM 800510 in reply to 800500
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat
    StrategicJoeL:

    Your supposed to use your explorer to shoot his vills, and distract him.

    Due to the low multiplier explorers have versus villagers your explorer is going to have a hard time killing them, especially if the market armor is sent. And if they are CDBs or any civ with the settler HP card sent then they can just pretty much ignore him in age I and II.

    Edit: I see that once again due to my slow typing someone has scooped me here so -- What he said.

  •  03-30-2009, 10:19 PM 800549 in reply to 800510
    StrategicJoeL StrategicJoeL is not online. Last active: 11-11-2012, 4:23 PM
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat
    even if he doesn't actually move his citz, he still will be distracted by the alarm and check out what's happening. this is when you herd his herds away from his TC and then butcher them. he'll be temorarily distracted and not look at the brown movement on the minimap.

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  •  03-31-2009, 4:53 AM 800596 in reply to 800549
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat

    This is hilarious!I can almost age up off of one herd.Plus,your not going to deplete all the nearby herds in time for me to not be able to use them.Yes they might be farther away from my TC since you herded them away a distance,but its a LONG ways from yours.Then there are the berry bushes that I could use yet.Once I'm in the Colonial age,your toast!Because you have a lack of food,you probably won't be able to age up til about 8:00.

     BTW,I think all you need to know is that this strat (MIGHT) work only againt CPU players on the Sandbox or Standard difficulty level.Try to take your strat online and I garantee you'll loose every time...

  •  03-31-2009, 5:26 AM 800601 in reply to 800461
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    Subject: Re: HILAROUS strat
    savorybeef:
    grrr okay time to do the whats your eso acct name check to find out if hes actually above corporal

    That's definitely arrogance though.... 


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