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  •  04-17-2012, 1:08 PM 955060
    ANKUR ANKUR is not online. Last active: 09-15-2013, 1:53 AM
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    Subject: erk vs li

    i was looking in cyclohexane"quick refernce guide" , he mentioned that ski has 2x multiplier vs erk

    while in "unit comparison guide" he has writen

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    Light Infantry receive a 1.5 multiplier towards Light Cavalry and the Eagle Runner Knight.  In order to compare the Eagle Runner Knight as light infantry yet include the fact that all light infantry get a 1.5 multiplier to both ranged and melee damage versus the Eagle Knight, a reduction in armor percentage is used to simulate the light infantry attack bonus.  The 1.5 bonus applies to all of the above units except the Arrow Knight, Huron Mantlet, and Mantlet (who will rank slightly higher than they should versus the eagle knight because of this calculation).

    A 1.5 multiplier on ranged damage is equivalent to -5% armor (opposed to +30% ranged) and a 1.5 multiplier on melee damage is equivalent to -50% armor (opposed to 0% hand) on the Eagle Knight.  This decreases the effective hit points (EHP) versus the ranged and melee attack of light infantry.  An example of the calculation is located in the far right grouping button at the top of the worksheet. "

     

     

     

     

     

    so what is the real multiplier ? 


    knight_br:
    Optimal explanation .. very succinctly


    LordStefanIII:

    Unkown_Genius:
    Leave it to Age.Comm to get a thread twenty miles off topic.


    :)

    Or turn into a flame war.

  •  04-17-2012, 1:13 PM 955062 in reply to 955060
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    Subject: Re: erk vs li
    x2.0
  •  04-17-2012, 1:16 PM 955064 in reply to 955062
    Tomasl Tomasl is not online. Last active: 05-01-2012, 9:20 PM
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    Subject: Re: erk vs li

    LordStefanIII:
    x2.0

    ty confirming TheKillerClown_Sucks 


  •  04-17-2012, 1:17 PM 955065 in reply to 955060
    Thranduil81 Thranduil81 is not online. Last active: 05-25-2013, 6:43 AM
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    Subject: Re: erk vs li

    Well, his names are off I think. I see no reason for actual light infantry (coyote runners) to get a bonus vs light cav(goons) or erks because they are supposed to be countered by those. And I really don't want to go through to figure out if his armor thing is correct, but that doesn't sound right, as erks definitely have armor, and its not negative. And there's no system in the game to have less armor vs specific units. Its possible that he means the specific tags that can be used to reference damage to erks (or coyote runners) but that's definitely not armor.

     

    The actual bonuses that I know of are: Skirms have a x2 vs erks, and x.75 vs coyotes. Abus work a little differently as I said in the aztec thread.

  •  04-17-2012, 1:30 PM 955069 in reply to 955065
    ANKUR ANKUR is not online. Last active: 09-15-2013, 1:53 AM
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    Subject: Re: erk vs li
    Thranduil81:

    Well, his names are off I think. I see no reason for actual light infantry (coyote runners) to get a bonus vs light cav(goons) or erks because they are supposed to be countered by those. And I really don't want to go through to figure out if his armor thing is correct, but that doesn't sound right, as erks definitely have armor, and its not negative. And there's no system in the game to have less armor vs specific units. Its possible that he means the specific tags that can be used to reference damage to erks (or coyote runners) but that's definitely not armor.

     

    The actual bonuses that I know of are: Skirms have a x2 vs erks, and x.75 vs coyotes. Abus work a little differently as I said in the aztec thread.

    u r telling the same data as cyclo mentioned in his quick refernce guide

    btw by li he was refering ranged li like ski , u cant compare cayote and erk, that line is from

    light infantry(ski like) comparsion section from cyclo guide unit comparsion 

     i think u dont have those guides

    anyways ty thranduil and lordstefan for clearing my doubt 


    knight_br:
    Optimal explanation .. very succinctly


    LordStefanIII:

    Unkown_Genius:
    Leave it to Age.Comm to get a thread twenty miles off topic.


    :)

    Or turn into a flame war.

  •  04-17-2012, 8:20 PM 955094 in reply to 955064
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: erk vs li
    Tomasl:

    LordStefanIII:
    x2.0

    ty confirming TheKillerClown_Sucks 


    that was pretty old news lmao 

  •  04-18-2012, 5:30 AM 955110 in reply to 955094
    Tomasl Tomasl is not online. Last active: 05-01-2012, 9:20 PM
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    Subject: Re: erk vs li
    Milky__:
    Tomasl:

    LordStefanIII:
    x2.0

    ty confirming TheKillerClown_Sucks 


    that was pretty old news lmao 

    lol i dont keep track of peoples many usernames even sadder that he pretends to be someone else to compliment himself when his other account are apparently general knowledge

  •  04-18-2012, 6:01 AM 955111 in reply to 955110
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: erk vs li
    Tomasl:
    Milky__:
    Tomasl:

    LordStefanIII:
    x2.0

    ty confirming TheKillerClown_Sucks 


    that was pretty old news lmao 

    lol i dont keep track of peoples many usernames even sadder that he pretends to be someone else to compliment himself when his other account are apparently general knowledge

    there are actually 3 people who use that forum account 

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