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  •  05-21-2012, 2:03 PM 957298
    J McMillin J McMillin is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 11:00 PM
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    Subject: organ guns or horse guns?
    which are better to use in treaty? obviously this is for ports. are organ guns like cho ko nus? i mean they shoot multiple rounds at a time so their base attack looks low? because non upgraded organ gun has 33 attack and plain horse art have 125 with a 3x bonus vs infantry. organ guns are cheaper and take up less pop, so thats one advantage for them. when you look at them they have 6 barrels so they would have 6x33 attack i'm guessing? any input would be appreciated
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  •  05-21-2012, 2:26 PM 957302 in reply to 957298
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    Subject: Re: organ guns or horse guns?
    Definatly dont do what just happened our game! Surprise
  •  05-21-2012, 2:27 PM 957303 in reply to 957298
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    Subject: Re: organ guns or horse guns?
    Organ guns should be used in every matchup except vs otto because otto culv kills one organ with one shot.
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  •  05-21-2012, 2:50 PM 957304 in reply to 957303
    J McMillin J McMillin is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 11:00 PM
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    Subject: Re: organ guns or horse guns?
    yeah @ buzz i just gave up. lol when i'm losing by score by 600 i don't even try
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  •  05-21-2012, 3:26 PM 957306 in reply to 957304
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    Subject: Re: organ guns or horse guns?

    J McMillin:
    yeah @ buzz i just gave up. lol when i'm losing by score by 600 i don't even try

    Just don't lose like that. Rage quit is very annoing for your mates so don't do it...

    Btw. organ guns are way better than horse art. It's fact!

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  •  05-21-2012, 7:09 PM 957311 in reply to 957306
    J McMillin J McMillin is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 11:00 PM
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    Subject: Re: organ guns or horse guns?
    it was 1v1. it wasn't rage quit it was more oh i scored 1700 with ports he scored 2400 with germans... i dont even care. don't horse guns have way more range though? that can be a big advantage. port range is great. jinetes pick of your cav from a mile away cass get your infantry from a mile away and your mortars can shell the enemy town center from like your own towncenter. lol. i also like to get like 5 horse guns and 30 goons and go on a raiding party because of their speed. :D. but that almost has to be supremacy because walls make that kind of irrelevant
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  •  05-21-2012, 7:32 PM 957314 in reply to 957311
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    Subject: Re: organ guns or horse guns?

     Organs are better. They're pretty much as good as horse cannons but only 4 population.

    And no, they have the same range.

  •  05-21-2012, 8:45 PM 957322 in reply to 957314
    J McMillin J McMillin is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 11:00 PM
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    Subject: Re: organ guns or horse guns?
    so thats a no on the horse artillery i guess for ports. for other civs then, are horse guns better then field guns?
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  •  05-21-2012, 9:01 PM 957325 in reply to 957322
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    Subject: Re: organ guns or horse guns?
    yeah theyre much better
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  •  05-21-2012, 9:11 PM 957328 in reply to 957322
    LordStefanIII LordStefanIII is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 4:28 PM
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    Subject: Re: organ guns or horse guns?
    They're not, Horse are a lot better than falc because they do a quite a bit more damage for 1 more pop. Its just organs are very good for 4 pop.
  •  05-21-2012, 9:53 PM 957332 in reply to 957328
    J McMillin J McMillin is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 11:00 PM
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    Subject: Re: organ guns or horse guns?
    then why do you see so few ppl use horse guns while lots use falconets? do falcs do more damage to buildings?
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  •  05-21-2012, 11:21 PM 957334 in reply to 957332
    LordStefanIII LordStefanIII is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 4:28 PM
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    Subject: Re: organ guns or horse guns?
    I'm guessing a lot of people think 218 damage compare to 150-170(?) damage isn't worth the extra population. Its pretty obvious if you multiply the extra damage by 3 that its quite a bit more. I also believe someone awhile back said falcs train faster, which I'm positive is not true without doing any tests.
  •  05-22-2012, 12:48 AM 957338 in reply to 957334
    Metis Metis is not online. Last active: Sun, May 19 2013, 11:36 PM
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    Subject: Re: organ guns or horse guns?

    The Organ Gun excels against massed infantry. However, for everything else it has some detriments.

    The Horse Artillery doesn't have the Organ Gun's -25% detriment versus buildings or its -50% detriment toward cavalry, light infantry (in TAD this means things like Rattan Shields), ships and other artillery. The Horse Artillery actually has a 2x bonus versus buildings and a 3x bonus versus infantry and ships. It's splash is one more than the Organ Gun's too.
  •  05-22-2012, 12:57 AM 957339 in reply to 957338
    LordStefanIII LordStefanIII is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 4:28 PM
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    Subject: Re: organ guns or horse guns?

    However in tr, cannons are never really used against buildings, ships or cav.

    It never came to mind that horse art have a multiplier vs light inf, so I suppose if you're going to make art vs aztecs, horse cannons are the way to go.

  •  05-22-2012, 3:56 AM 957350 in reply to 957339
    AoE_BLOOD AoE_BLOOD is not online. Last active: 11-02-2012, 9:24 AM
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    Subject: Re: organ guns or horse guns?
    i believe horse art have more area damage than organ.... but anyway organs are better
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