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  •  06-19-2012, 8:29 PM 959588
    TacticalWillie TacticalWillie is not online. Last active: 12-26-2013, 9:58 AM
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    Subject: Sioux Morning Star

    Sioux Morning Star

    Lately, I have been playing occasional matches with Sioux, and they do as great as iro! after seeing many troll strategies, I decided to contribute to agecomm, and post a strategy I have being testing against a few people. After all, hardly any decent strategies have been posted for a while. As the title inquires, this is a unique strategy for Sioux, and it requires using Morning Star. Now I know most of u hardly plays Sioux often, so you’ll be asking… What the heck is the Morning Star??? Well I’ll explain it to u later in this strategy. Now I’ll just go into the basics of Sioux as I know most of you aren’t familiar with this civilization.

    1.     Sioux cavalry

    2.     Sioux infantry

    3.     Pros of Sioux

    4.     Cons of Sioux

    5.     Required cards

    6.     Recommended cards

    7.     The Strategy Guide

    8.     Tips

    9.     Conclusion

    1] Sioux cavalry

    The Sioux have an exceptionally wide range of cavalry.

    Warchief - The Sioux OP unit. He has a speed of 7.76 or 8.10 if your in TWC and boosts the speed of your nearby units.

    Axe Rider - This unit has less HP than a hussar, however, its beastly damage output + the OP warchief speed boost makes it an epic combo for raiding.

    Bow Rider - Good ranged cavalry unit. Unlike most RC (ranged cav), it is available in the 2nd age. To make matters better, it doesn’t have a -0.5 multiplier against civilian units making them speedy and deadly against settlers when mixed with the OP warchief.

    Rifle Rider - Clearly the best RC against HI. OP RR can wipe out battalions of rodelero, janissary, musketeer, and basically any HI, cav and artillery. Unfortunately, this unit can only be trained in the 3rd age L.

    Tashunke Prowlers - This unit is totally UP when in low numbers. However, if u have all 12 of them, then their attack and HP stack up to form an OP formidable army. Their stealth ability can ambush armies and can take out a lot of soldiers if u unstealth them right in front of your enemy’s army. IMO the tashunke spam takes a bit too long. I don’t recommend it until you have mastered it.

    Dog Soldier - I know u can only spawn them via the firepit, but the 2 dog soldier shipment in age 2 can change the whole outcome of the battle as dog soldiers = OP in age 2.

     

    2] Sioux infantry

    Hey guess what? Sioux inf isn’t as bad as everyone expects! That is because they are OP

    Cetan Bow – The easiest Sioux strat to master is probably cetan spam IMO, but that’s not what this strat is about.

    Warclub – The warclub just isn’t a great all-purpose unit. But, if u need a bit of siege and extra anti-cav, then warclub is your man. Warclub also is extremely fast around the chief and he is cheap so a great and fast siege unit.

    Wakina Rifle – Wakina is really OP. They r cheap as heck and aren’t that bad compared to skirms.

    3] Pros of Sioux

    No housing – Sioux start with 200 pop, so you don’t have to worry about chopping wood for houses. IMO this is what makes the Sioux rush only 1 notch below India and Iroquois. Also u can send beastly outlaw cards without worrying about pop.

    Warchief – The Sioux has the fasted OP explorer unit in the game, so take advantage of that and scout scout scout! Good to scout the whole map for good treasures and enemy TC. Also its speed boost is very useful, so always make sure to put it behind cav when raiding. Or put it behind RR (rifle rider) and it will be able to Hit & run like no other.

    Cavalry – Sioux has a wide range of cavalry, and most of them are OP for raiding, so make sure u make the right choice of cav combos. EG: RR + Axe rider + just a few Wakina Pwns all combos.

    4] Cons of Sioux

    Walling – The great Sioux nation has no walls, so always stay alert. And try not to lag the game to industrial in a 1v1 where Sioux gets weaker.

    Economy – The most know disadvantage of Sioux is its apparent bad economy, but it doesn’t seem that bad IMO. Just don’t go imperial fighting because the disadvantage of no walls + bad eco will make u lose.

    Now for the big question… What is Morning Star???

    Morning Star gives your Axe Riders the nature friendship ability! As many of you know there is a lot of treasures on the maps so this is extremely OP since you can take all the map treasure guardians and attack your enemies base with them!

    Now ladies and gentlemen… I bring you the Sioux Morning Star!!!

    5] Required cards

    3 villagers – I think none need to be said here

    4 axe riders – Also obvious

    700 food – This card helps u get 5 axe riders out as they cost a LOT of food. Also, it helps u gain 100 XP and that means a faster Morning Star.

    3 axe riders – U have a choice of either 700 food or 3 axe riders. I prefer 700 food as it gives u that valuable 100XP, but if ur getting pushed back, then I recommend this card.

    6] Recommended cards

    700 gold – If ur RR r dead, and ur enemy crippled, I recommend u fortresize and train a few of the OP wakina and RR.

    7 warclubs – To take down that pesky TC.

    10 pistolero – This can actually be a very useful card. Good siege and big attack.

    15 bison – Axe riders cost a lot of food so if u run out of hunts, then send this card

    4 villagers – A good economic card. Gets that eco running again.

    6 cetan bow/3 grizzly bears – Just in case.

    7] The Strategy

    Standard age 1. I won’t waste my time explaining what to do. OP Warchief scout for good treasures. If u started with 100 gold, then scout for XP treasures as it will help u Morning Star earlier. If u started with no gold, then simply gather a few gold treasures. 1st card 3 villagers. Age up around 3:00 with ‘The chief’ politician (400 wood).

    Transition: depends on how much gold u have at the moment. 100 gold: 2 villies on coin. 200 gold: 1 villie on gold. No gold: 3 villies on coin. Send villies to herd 2nd and sometimes the 3rd herd in the case of Great Plains.

    Age 2: as soon as u age, send the 4 axe rider card. It needs to be out as soon as possible for raiding. Send 3 villies to gather wood. As soon as u have 200 wood, send 4 villies to build a corral. 4 axe riders will arrive around 5:20. Corral build around 5:25. As soon as the corral is built, queue 5 axe riders. Join the warcheif with the 4 axe rider shipment and raid. Raiding is very important. Sioux has not so good eco, and the only way to balance that is to degrade ur opponent’s eco. 3rd shipment should be ready as soon as ur 5 axe rider comes out. Queue another 5 axe riders and then send 700 food. Like i said, send military shipment if ur been rushed hard. But if u can restrain it, send 700 food. Keep pumping out villagers! 2nd batch of axe out around 6:45. Queue 1 axe rider and when the 700 food arrives, u should have enough food to train 4 more. Always keep resources balanced. U need a 4:1 food to gold resource ratio as soon as 4th shipment is ready, send Morning Star. 2/5 way though the shipment, line as much axe riders as u possibly can. The point is for your current axe riders to Gather all the Teasure Guardians, but your going to have another 5 axe riders to take of those pesky LI. Keep queuing axe.

    THE ATTACK:

    Force: 19 Axe Riders  +25 Treasure guardians + OP WarChief

    The Treasure guardians can easily take on an army of 50+musketeers and not die. Just stand and fight because the muskets will run scattered so just pick them off. The axe riders are important! They are the only way to destroy LI efficiently. Make sure u micro well. 4th card is of your choice. 7 war-clubs if u think u need extra siege. 10 Pistolero if u have enough coin. Etc... Just pick the right card for the situation that u r in right now. From now on, it’s totally up to your choice what to do.

     8] Tips

    ·         The treasure guardians is VERY important. If they die, you can't get them back since there is no more on the map! So make sure u have your OP war chief behind they'll be able to move faster then normal.

    ·         If your Treasure guardians die it will have at least made your enemy’s economy momentarily stun. And so I suggest u fortress. You will be able to control him better if u have an OP Wakina+ RR + Teepee and they’re fighting with colonial units. Just keep on scouting out what he is doing, cause he’s either doing 2 things: Fortress age or massing colonial units. If hes massing colonial, then build a chop wood and build a war hut. That way, as soon as you reach fortress age, you will be able to train OP Wakina.

    ·         The Morning Star Variation 2: instead of aging up with 400 wood, age up with 500 food. You will be able to train more axe riders however, u do need to chop 200 wood to build a corral. The reason I used 400 wood is because I can build a war hut or another corral when I need to. Its totally up to your choice. If u want a bigger force, then age up with 500 food, if u want to train some war hut units (e.g.: Warclub for siege), then I suggest u age up with 400 wood.

    ·         This strategy worked very well against Dutch. They only have pike as age 2 HI and Treasure guardians hit & run pike. U can use the higher attack to destroy your enemy and take down his HI etc. This strategy works the best for civilizations that don’t have ranged LI. The only civilizations i don’t recommend this against is India, China, or another Sioux opponent. I saw this because they are all able to train RC in age 2 and Axe Riders gets pwned by RC.

    Soz for the no replays. I forgot to make it recently. Well. That concludes my Sioux Morning Star Guide. I hope u enjoyed it and feel free to use this strategy and make suggestions about making this strategy more OP. i hope this helps u be more familiar with Sioux.

    Edit: This strategy has been written in part by Grandevous all instances not involving Sioux Morning Star  and OP belong wholly to Grandevous. All parts involving Sioux Morning Star and OP belong to TacticalWillie


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  •  06-19-2012, 8:54 PM 959590 in reply to 959588
    Thranduil81 Thranduil81 is not online. Last active: 05-25-2013, 6:43 AM
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    Subject: Re: Sioux Morning Star
    Plagiarism is bad
  •  06-19-2012, 10:56 PM 959610 in reply to 959590
    J McMillin J McMillin is not online. Last active: 03-11-2014, 1:01 AM
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    Subject: Re: Sioux Morning Star
    i use that card only in unrated games because its not that good but its really fun to attack your enemy with 10 grizzlie bears XD. if you do use it do it on a treasure heavy map with op gaurdians. mongolia, yellow river etc

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  •  06-20-2012, 1:32 AM 959624 in reply to 959610
    Grandevous Grandevous is not online. Last active: 08-31-2013, 7:56 AM
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    Subject: Re: Sioux Morning Star
    W...T...F... Is this...?

    Death will take you without a care for circumstance or timing; live life to the fullest without fear of death, or need to know why it chooses who it does - otherwise you are already dead.
  •  06-20-2012, 1:35 AM 959630 in reply to 959610
    Jerom Jerom is not online. Last active: 28 Dec 2013, 7:18 PM
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    Subject: Re: Sioux Morning Star
    This might actually work on Yukon lol (probably not though)

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  •  06-20-2012, 3:06 AM 959637 in reply to 959624
    ThatRabbi ThatRabbi is not online. Last active: 12-13-2013, 2:13 PM
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    Subject: Re: Sioux Morning Star
    He just stole it
  •  06-20-2012, 3:12 AM 959638 in reply to 959637
    Grandevous Grandevous is not online. Last active: 08-31-2013, 7:56 AM
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    Subject: Re: Sioux Morning Star
    No plagiarism men.

    Death will take you without a care for circumstance or timing; live life to the fullest without fear of death, or need to know why it chooses who it does - otherwise you are already dead.
  •  06-20-2012, 5:05 AM 959647 in reply to 959638
    Jerom Jerom is not online. Last active: 28 Dec 2013, 7:18 PM
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    Subject: Re: Sioux Morning Star
    morning star is not equal to the evening star :P

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  •  06-20-2012, 7:02 PM 959698 in reply to 959647
    TacticalWillie TacticalWillie is not online. Last active: 12-26-2013, 9:58 AM
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    Subject: Re: Sioux Morning Star
    Jerom:
    morning star is not equal to the evening star :P


    Actually the maps that this is good with this strategy is like Deccan, or most TAD maps, because they have OP treasure guardians.

    Yes, that is exactly why this is not plagiarism. all the stuff I copied of yours is "common" Sioux facts, so its clearly not plagiarism.



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  •  06-20-2012, 7:46 PM 959704 in reply to 959698
    0xyM0r0n 0xyM0r0n is not online. Last active: 09-25-2013, 10:39 PM
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    Subject: Re: Sioux Morning Star

    i used it on earth once and got 7 outlaw rifleman, 6 pirates, and 8 Bears and i also made some war clubs that took out enemy's houses.

    However, these guardians after being converted have reduced hp and speed (rifleman goes from 7 speed - > 4.88, down to around 100 hp)  and feature a negative bonus vs buildings and villagers. dont raid with them use the axe riders and try to hit run with the guardians.

     That being said, Grandevous's sioux strategy works about 9.99999E99 times better in a Real game not a conscript bashing game.


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  •  06-20-2012, 10:58 PM 959710 in reply to 959704
    Thranduil81 Thranduil81 is not online. Last active: 05-25-2013, 6:43 AM
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    Subject: Re: Sioux Morning Star

    copy/paste = plagiarism dude. Definition from WPA: "In an instructional setting, plagiarism occurs when a writer deliberately uses someone else’s language, ideas, or other original (not common-knowledge) material without acknowledging its source." Using someone's language is bad whether its commong material or not.

    And there are several specifics to the strat that you include via copy/paste.

    Plus, as pointed out, the strat is bad. 

  •  06-21-2012, 1:20 AM 959718 in reply to 959710
    Jerom Jerom is not online. Last active: 28 Dec 2013, 7:18 PM
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    Subject: Re: Sioux Morning Star

    AT school plagiarism is when you just copy paste lol.

    Lame teacherssss 


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  •  06-21-2012, 1:46 AM 959720 in reply to 959718
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    Subject: Re: Sioux Morning Star
    Jerom:

    AT school plagiarism is when you just copy paste lol.

    Lame teacherssss 

    Stupid Willie stole my strat and made it look retarded. 


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  •  06-21-2012, 3:42 PM 959748 in reply to 959720
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    Subject: Re: Sioux Morning Star
    Grandevous:
    Jerom:

    AT school plagiarism is when you just copy paste lol.

    Lame teacherssss 

    Stupid Willie stole my strat and made it look retarded. 

     I don't know if he had to do that much to make it look retarded hahahahaha

    just kidding mate. 


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  •  12-11-2013, 12:49 PM 1019836 in reply to 959638
    TacticalWillie TacticalWillie is not online. Last active: 12-26-2013, 9:58 AM
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    Subject: Re: Sioux Morning Star

    Grandevous:
    No plagiarism men.

    HAHAHA


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