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In one of my offline booms I got 1700+. With Sioux, however, booming is highly dependent on natural resources. Orinoco, Andes, etc are bad maps for Sioux, which do better on maps such as Deccan, Great Plains, and Himalayas with lots of hunts and mines.

The Great Plains map, with its cavalry upgrades and abundant hunts, is probably the best map for Sioux. Of course, the Sioux are associated with the northwestern Great Plains; however, they actually started in the Great Lakes region, migrating west and obtaining horses only after Europeans begin to trade in the area and their enemies obtained better weapons.

Speaking of better weapons, the Sioux, at the Little Bighorn, not only out-numbered but also out-gunned the 7th cavalry. Had Custer taken along his Gatling Guns the outcome would have been much different. Custer had good intel that he was outnumbered but his arrogance got himself and his men killed. Had he survived the battle he undoubtedly would have been court marshaled and relieved of his command.

There were 2,361 cartridges, cases and bullets recovered from the entire battlefield, which reportedly came from 45 different firearms types (including the Army Springfields and Colts, of course) and represented at least 371 individual guns. The evidence indicated that the Indians used Sharps, Smith & Wessons, Evans, Henrys, Winchesters, Remingtons, Ballards, Maynards, Starrs, Spencers, Enfields and Forehand & Wadworths, as well as Colts and Springfields of other calibers. There was evidence of 69 individual Army Springfields on Custer's Field (the square-mile section where Custer's five companies died), but there was also evidence of 62 Indian .44-caliber Henry repeaters and 27 Sharps .50-caliber weapons. In all, on Custer's Field there was evidence of at least 134 Indian firearms versus 81 for the soldiers. It appears that the Army was outgunned as well as outnumbered.

Are you guys doing dog soldiers with these booms? 1450-1500 isn't terrible if you do dog soldiers, and its at least a 2 vs 2. But if you're doing it in a 1 vs 1 without dogs, then you should be getting at least 1600-1700.

Andes ofc.

I like to send the 15 bisons in age 2 if you don't have enough hunts.

 And in team games with port and german/spain(3 v 3) or stuff like that I use to send the 6 team bisons

You have the space for that cards imo.

LordStefanIII:

Are you guys doing dog soldiers with these booms? 1450-1500 isn't terrible if you do dog soldiers, and its at least a 2 vs 2. But if you're doing it in a 1 vs 1 without dogs, then you should be getting at least 1600-1700.

Andes ofc.

just curious, but why would u ever for any reason at all play sioux in a 1v1?  

TacticalWillie:

My score is usually around 2200+ with Sioux...

Put you money where your mouth is and post a recording on medium speed (evidenced by starting and ending timestamped screen-shots) in an on-line or LAN boom (evidenced by having a Sioux opponent).

jayve98:

just curious, but why would u ever for any reason at all play Sioux in a 1v1?  

I've done it, and won, a couple of times in unrated games by just playing defensively (admittedly not against any experts).

Just out of curiosity I ran a test. As you all know, the Native farm walls have a fence that prevents units from passing. With the building rotator you can position farms as walls around most of your base. If you send Advanced Farm and Improved Buildings, and have 25-dancers on the Town Dance the Sioux farm walls have 17,123 hit-points.

Grandevous:

yeah i was doing a dog box. i guess andes suck for sioux cause of the lack of abundance of hunts.

I disagree.

There have been many games where I have been sioux in a 2v2 and have hit passed 1600 as there were mountains of hunts (with a port ally), It's just too unpredictable. 

Deccan sucks for sioux because of the map.  

Metis:

jayve98:

just curious, but why would u ever for any reason at all play Sioux in a 1v1?  

I've done it, and won, a couple of times in unrated games by just playing defensively (admittedly not against any experts).

Just out of curiosity I ran a test. As you all know, the Native farm walls have a fence that prevents units from passing. With the building rotator you can position farms as walls around most of your base. If you send Advanced Farm and Improved Buildings, and have 25-dancers on the Town Dance the Sioux farm walls have 17,123 hit-points.

What about corral walls, they are cheaper(200 wood vs 400 wood)

Metis:

I've done it, and won, a couple of times in unrated games by just playing defensively (admittedly not against any experts).

Just out of curiosity I ran a test. As you all know, the Native farm walls have a fence that prevents units from passing. With the building rotator you can position farms as walls around most of your base. If you send Advanced Farm and Improved Buildings, and have 25-dancers on the Town Dance the Sioux farm walls have 17,123 hit-points.

Good idear.