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Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

[A414A] incy — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:00:16 GMT

Silly me replying on topic.

Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

James — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:38:40 GMT

(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3:
President_James:

(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3:
yohomes:
pics or it didnt happen
Appear at the front door of my house of or you don't exist.

SENSE -

that sentence makes none.

Damn, I meant or :(

swear i just said that...

Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

[A414A] incy — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:44:40 GMT

(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3:
Ok, so nothing exciting or anything, just a bit funny/ironic/sad.
So after playing loads of ffa, I decided to get back into 1v1. Just to let you guys know I'm a 1st lt. pr 24.
So anyway, I do a 1v1 unrated; I'm Japanese and my opponent is Chinese. It's on Bayou. When we get to colonial, I push in early with ashis, he holds, we go back and forth a bit until he completely overwhelms my army. He pushes into my base and then stops just outside. He amasses his forces and ages to third. If he pushed as soon as he overwhelmed me I would have been toast. I start to make cav, as he has lots of xbow. I keep pumping the ashigarus til I have about 70, and I age. This guy then starts whittling away the forward part of my base with hand mortars, so I decide its now or never. I push in and absolutely **** his units (he didn't make enough anti cav, my ashis ripped his few pikes apart).
I use informers and see he has nothing left so I push and it's gg. Before he quits, he says: "OP as usual". I mean, I thought this was quite sad. He had the advantage and because he made a mistake he lost, not because Japan is OP. Any thoughts?

Japan is still OP, but he can't talk because 1st Lt's can't lame its OPness correctly (you used one of the more useless wonders :p :p). They're not an easy civ. He did get greedy and that's why he lost his army, and with it the game.

Getting greedy will often lose many games, to the surprise of both players. Don't go into someones town unless you can really muscle it, and if you do make sure you have a quick and easy retreat route; it's essential.

Vs China I prefer a Yumi/Club start and then Naginata btw. My 2 cents.

Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3 — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:38:42 GMT

President_James:
(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3:
President_James:
(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3:
yohomes:
pics or it didnt happen
Appear at the front door of my house of or you don't exist.

SENSE -

that sentence makes none.
Damn, I meant or :(

Not grammar, I meant to type or, but I hit the f key instead of the r (the way I touch type makes this one especially easy to happen). I can't find an S swastika (nor do I want to try to make one), so I'll just give you this (not made by me).

Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

President_James — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:39:10 GMT

(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3:
President_James:
(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3:
yohomes:
pics or it didnt happen
Appear at the front door of my house of or you don't exist.

SENSE -

that sentence makes none.
Damn, I meant or :(

Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3 — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:09:53 GMT

President_James:
(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3:
yohomes:
pics or it didnt happen
Appear at the front door of my house of or you don't exist.

SENSE -

that sentence makes none.

Damn, I meant or :(

Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

James — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:11:05 GMT

he meant or you dont exist. it was just a typo

Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

President_James — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:33:23 GMT

(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3:
yohomes:
pics or it didnt happen
Appear at the front door of my house of you don't exist.

SENSE -

that sentence makes none.

Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

Hidan — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 07:02:15 GMT

yohomes never existed in the first place. duh...

Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3 — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:14:31 GMT

yohomes:
pics or it didnt happen

Appear at the front door of my house or you don't exist.

Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

yohomes — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:49:24 GMT

pics or it didnt happen

Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

bloodysepoy — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:25:01 GMT

Marlonsm:
(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3:
The thing is... what to use instead of hunts? I'd already set up 2 cherry orchards. I understand not needing to use hunts, but that means I can't gather as fast from rice paddy anyway. I had 2 up.
The guy made 1 forward war academy, he could have pumped out much more troops, but he didn't. He also fell victim to poor scouting; if he had have scouted he would have seen me using the mines on the side his army wasn't standing.
Japan has shrines to make up for the lack of hunting.
I'm not saying that he deserved to win, as I didn't see the game, I'm just saying that it's still hard to beat Japan.

hey you know what i have noticed that japan is kinda slow early on,,,,,,the best strategy against japan is a good rush.....and keep the fighting going on inside his town....that forces him to garrison his villies.......and since he cant hunt..its gg

and yes shrines cant provide him with enough resources to keep the fight going on.........i always try to fight around his orachards and always send few horses to keep a check on the nearby berry bushes

Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

Marlonsm — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:15:44 GMT

(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3:
The thing is... what to use instead of hunts? I'd already set up 2 cherry orchards. I understand not needing to use hunts, but that means I can't gather as fast from rice paddy anyway. I had 2 up.
The guy made 1 forward war academy, he could have pumped out much more troops, but he didn't. He also fell victim to poor scouting; if he had have scouted he would have seen me using the mines on the side his army wasn't standing.

Japan has shrines to make up for the lack of hunting.

I'm not saying that he deserved to win, as I didn't see the game, I'm just saying that it's still hard to beat Japan.

Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

President_James — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:02:23 GMT

Tomo_Tanker:
Sometimes you just don't have enough force to take down someone completely, if you expect TC-fire + some sort of minutemen.

A part of OP Japan is that they can build alot more units in alot less time once they get going, so if he just didn't have enough units to completely kill you, then it's not strange that he waited outside of your base. Normally that would drain someone's eco enough, since they can't get any hunts anymore.

But Japan doesn't use hunts, only for Shrines. So yes, it probably was a bit because of OP Japan.

it happens often enough that the presence of a big army in your opponent's base is enough to demoralize them into resigning.

the last game I played, both enemies did just that because of a strong numerical advantage in their base (we never even destroyed their TC, but most of their military buildings were toast).

I figure, just go ahead and push!

Re: I mean... Just plain LOL

(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3 — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:55:30 GMT

Marlonsm:
Tomo_Tanker:
Sometimes you just don't have enough force to take down someone completely, if you expect TC-fire + some sort of minutemen.

A part of OP Japan is that they can build alot more units in alot less time once they get going, so if he just didn't have enough units to completely kill you, then it's not strange that he waited outside of your base. Normally that would drain someone's eco enough, since they can't get any hunts anymore.

But Japan doesn't use hunts, only for Shrines. So yes, it probably was a bit because of OP Japan.
+1
(Au)Ben_Martin_aoe3:
He did though. I had zero units and he had about 30 xbows, 10 pikes, 5 rattans and 10 cav. He just chose to stay back and wait for age 3.
I also play Chinese and if I had that army I also wouldn't atk, I'd just keep pressuring.
The problem is: how to pressure Japan if they have no need to hunt? It makes things much harder.

The thing is... what to use instead of hunts? I'd already set up 2 cherry orchards. I understand not needing to use hunts, but that means I can't gather as fast from rice paddy anyway. I had 2 up.

The guy made 1 forward war academy, he could have pumped out much more troops, but he didn't. He also fell victim to poor scouting; if he had have scouted he would have seen me using the mines on the side his army wasn't standing.