Deathmatch Strategy

OP to UP

Ivan Grozny — Mon, 20 May 2013 07:09:27 GMT

Why not make a list of DM civs from OP to UP (TAD, GP only, etc)? I have seen many people argue on which are the OPest civs in DM. Imho:

1st russia, really easy to rush, raid, spam inf... and they have a really good win ratio to back up that claim. They kind of lack proper ranged cav, but they don't really need it to be the top civ. I kind of hate them just because they're so easy. At top levels they aren't that good since people actually know how to play most other civs, but they still are most definitely a top civ.

2nd ports. amazing mortar range + amazing goon range. Even in DM those goons can micro good enough. Add a few cassas and the combo becomes lame as hell. Probably the best civ at 35++

3rd dutch. Its really easy to spam banks once the game starts, which gives you an amazing eco boost by the first 5 mins, which easily outbooms most civs. Ruyters are cool, but not really amazing in DM. If you know how to defend early on (which isn't really hard with instant ruyters) you should do good enough.

4th germs. War wagons. Nuff' said. They don't have other qualities to back themselves up - but WWs are just so good they don't actually need them. Probably the 2nd easiest civ.

5th spain. Instant tercios + unction. Maybe should be 4th, Idk, I haven't played them, nor against them, enough times to remember how good tercios are vs ranged cav spams. Which is a shame since unction is pretty fun. IMHO the best non-OP civ.

6th france. Gendarmes are still pretty good, sometimes even against ranged cav. They can be really competitive against civs without proper anti cav. Otherwise they don't have much to back themselves up.

7th sioux. Really underated civ, bow riders are pretty cool, if you know how to add tepees you should do good enough. Losses to dumb 1 min cav rushes, but, then again, games are unrated if you resign before the 2 min mark. Depend a lot on the fire pit and even more so in your skill.

8th brits. Really meh, the manor boom is too slow in DMs, and their military is mediocre in early game too.

9th Iros. Extremely underrated. The early 30 tommas are much better than those 6 minutemen. Unfortunately, games aren't rated before the 2 min mark so many people just resign if you're planning to do one of the quickest rush of DM MUs - at the same time said rule helps you out (any early quick cav rush would beat them). Really vulnerable to good hand cav and early ranged cav spams. They depend a lot on fire pit too. Require a fair amount of skill to be played seriously.

Anything below this point isn't viable to be played at 25++ 1v1s. At least not in GP.

10th China. If your opponent doesn't do the early ranged/hand cav spam, you can still do good enough to actually win. Their military isn't outworldly in early game and they're kinda vulnerable to hand cav too. The lack of mercantilism hurts them a lot, otherwise they would actually be a somewhat competitive civ.

11th Ottos. Crappy military, crappy ranged cav, no cav training card, really slow to boom with... There's little to back this guys up IMHO.

12th Aztecs. Crappy military (their "good" military trains so slow it hurts - and it's expensive enough not to be viable at all... yay), no proper cav, and their units train just too slow. Really vulnerable to rushes, but at the very least they got guard pikes. Require a lot of skill to be played. The only point to back aztecs up is the early 18 (?) prowler rush. However it makes most people resign, making the game unrated. Their "late game" is however interesting. In Andes they become more competitive, but they're still just too slow to actually be a competitive civ.

13th India. Cav trains too slow, howdahs aren't actually that good as you'd expect.. you seriously need the proper cards early on, which you can't get as you have no mercantilism. As the game progresses they don't become any better.

14th japan. The lack of mercantilism, fast unit training, early export and wonders hurt them shitless. They requiere at least 10 mins to be a proper civ to challenge, and even then they really suck to be honest.

It's like the guys who designed TAD completely forget there was another game type other than supremacy. Hell, I even remember that before the first patch you could age to imperial with the asian civs. The retards behind ES didn't realize that this "bug" actually made the TAD civs "somewhat" competitive in MUs (but not really that much, as asians still were vulnerable enough against rushes), and kind of compensated their lack of an early mercantilism or a good late game.

DM - How to defeat brits on Amazonia?

Casoberto — Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:33:16 GMT

So guys there is my question. I try to kill them but i just can't cuz of their Boats cards. So if u guys have any tips pls post :D (w/ ports mainly or any other civ)

Sorry bad english.

Active DM members here

Grandevous — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:10:02 GMT

any1 still an active DM player post here. just curious to see who still played DM.

Sioux Strategy

benbutler — Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:23:40 GMT

Hey, I've been playing DM online for a long time now, and I have to say I use Germans the most but i did figure out a strategy for the Sioux.

Why would I want to play with the Sioux, you ask?

For one, they start off with 200 pop! So your villagers dont have to waste their time building houses. Second, their warchief is on horseback, so you can claim all of the trade posts very fast. Third, they have all the units you could need. War clubs replace pikemen, Cetan bows replace crossbows, wakina rifles replace skirmishers. They are also very diversified in their cavalry. They have Bow riders ad Rifle riders, the equivalent of having both Cavalry archers and dragoons! Fourth, they have the card Mustangs which makes all their cavalry cost less. Cant you see how they could be good in a DM?

Put the following cards in your deck:

Mustangs

Riding School

Any cards that upgrade cav

Crates of food, coin

The card that lets you train natives instantly.

Btw you should use this strat on the map great plains.

Heres how i start off. First, send 2 villagers to build a Corral (equivalent of a stable), 2 to build a war hut, 1 to build a fire pit, and one to build a market. When the market is finished, get the New Moon Festival big button upgrade that gives you 2000xp (5 shipments) Ship riding school, then mustangs, then the native card, then the cav upgrades. Send your warchief to build a cheyenne post, and when it is done get cheyenne horse trading, which allows you to train cav faster. When all of your villagers are done building, send them to the fire pit and do the fertiliry dance which allows you to train all units faster. When your war hut is done, get the big button uupgrade there that lets you train war hut units faster. Now, send in a mixture of wakina rifles, musket riders, bow riders, clubmen, and axe riders and attack. When you hit max pop, set your fire pit to boost all units attack. I personally train 19 villagers and have my fire pit at 25/25 villagers. If you start losing the battle, train some more and make a FWB. IF you start running out of resources, send your villagers (this is why i like having 25) and gather from nearby bison. Have your warchief claim as many trade posts as possible and send in the natives from them.

Try it out and tell me how it works!

convert the deathmatch forum to the "off topic" forum

StrategicJoeL — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:04:20 GMT

since no one does deathmatch anymore we should make it into an off topic forum where we could all bond together and be happy together and also get into hilarious hateful endless discussions over such things as politics and religon. i posit that the renaming and conversion of the deathmatch forum happen promptly as it will certainly provide an efficacious venue for relaxation, kumbayas and such festivities

how do i defeat the germans...

owverlord finja999 — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:46:46 GMT

if my best guys can't even penetrate a wall of war wagons and they are at their highest upgrade?

OP Ragequit Strategy!

TacticalWillie — Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:17:26 GMT

Deathmatch is so easy, all you have to do is force your enemy to ragequit. Which is extremely easy!

Everyone who plays DM starts in Post-Industerial age-use this is your big advantage, expoilt that advantage to its fullest! Here is how you do it.

Step 1) start building houses.

Step 2) build a stable

Step 3) build a Church (but in the back of the map)

Step 4) make Hussars/Dragoons

Now this is where it gets tricky, if you feel yourself starting to lose, them move on to step five, if not then just stop with the steps, and go FTW.

Step 5) Create 25 Spies. (Delete church after you have built the spies)

Step 6) Place them in OP Stealth!

Step 7) Spread them all over the map!

Step 8) look out for the hero! (they will start plodding a long with their hero trying to find your spies) Just move your spies a round the heros line-o-sight, since your spies have an OP line-of-sight they can see farther then the hero.

Step 9) Go to facebook, or google, or forums, or go get a drink, watch TV and eat Pizza. In other words just relax! Wait for your enemy to become so angry and fustrated that they ragequit! No matter the rank, they will eventually rage-quit! Since they can not buy spies (because in you can not purchase a capital in DM IV age) they will never be able to find out where your spies are!!!!!

Step 10) Enjoy your hard earned OP victory!

Anyway that is just an extremely OP strategy for DM, pretty much the only one you need to know for DM too!

P.S. I am 100% wins in DM (The only time I don't use the Spy Strategy is in an unrated game) Other then that just call me a OP spy lamer

The Most Biggest Noob Player Kikkui I Have Ever Played

storm_999_ — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:18:19 GMT

I have beaten kukki in Deathmatch with 10 level civs, His civ was 60 level Russia.
After he lost certanly, He made spies, and it went to funny game and made me record and upload. Also, he pulled the plug while i was killing his last spy lolol.
You may watch:

http://youtu.be/qBb7DZcLiaQ

Russians

Porch — Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:08:58 GMT

From a glance they suck, they'll spam soldiers but lose to superior soldiers.

Any tips/help with winning with Russians?

Russian Dm

Dipak — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:19:03 GMT

I need a good russian Death match strat plz

thx for replies

New to DM; Help Maybe?

TJByrum — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:42:53 GMT

I think I might like DM. I got some questions.

Is collecting resources still important on DM? Reason I ask is because I just did a quick-play of DM and I aged up to Age IV, upgraded everything (that I knew of), made a large army and STILL had a stockpile of resources leftover.

What is common in DM? Like in Sup everyone obviously gets 800 food, ages up asap, always has a villie in produ, etc, etc... is it like this in DM? Or is it different?

Should I build lots of Rax, Stabs, and Art Founds?

Just anything you think I should know.

DM is nearly unplayable online

Gogemon — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:49:55 GMT

Seriously... this is how it goes. I am a SLOW AOE player, it's not a question of experience or knowledge, I just can't multi-task as well as others.

Join 2v2 game, get kicked for low rank/being a noob.

Join 1v1 game, get destroyed by superior player, usually a sgt or higher. They tell you it's about speed and if I am not fast, I should just do team dm.

Create 2v2 game, people join "1v1?" "No" They leave.

Join 1v1 game out of desperation for any playtime at all, get squashed again by superior players.

Join 2v2 game, get kicked for low rank.

All of this with there being about 2 or 3 games available.

Does not help I picked the Ottomans as my civ when they have the worst selection of offensive units. I plan to switch to another when I hit my next landmark, if I find enough games to get XP from that is.

How does anyone with low rank/low home city play DM anymore? I like Supremacy better but I like DM for it's quick play-style, but finding anything resembling a fair game is like brain surgery.

When playing dutch against the British. Land battles

mad_scotsman94 — Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:49:06 GMT

Which side has the better advantage on the land?

In my opinion, the dutch are very powerful on land maps since they have long ranged riflemen who can easily wipeout the british. I always get further while playing as the dutch also because of the banks and they make alot of gold for the economy. I would like other players opinions on which side is better DUTCH or BRITISH?

I would also like it if you could possibly tell me the strategies you use when playing good players so I can improve my ability to improve my skills on the battle feild since most of the time I get killed and I have no other units. How do I keep units from dying in seconds and loosing my whole army. Tactics on the battle feild is my weakness how do I attack.

I is very frustrating after a load of time making an army and then it gets completely FUC*** after like 2 seconds.

Strategies and tactics would be great to learn since I am a noob and want to learn how other players play the game.

Thank you all who reply :)

Japan Deathmatch Strategies?

Leafstar — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:07:41 GMT

Hey everybody! =)

I've been looking for some strategies/guides to playing the Japanese civilization in Deathmatch mode, and was hoping some of you out there might be able to point me in the right direction. Also, any pointers to playing the Japanese would be appreciated!

Usually, what I do, is build an army of Yumi/Samarui and Yabasumes, however the Yabasumes get extremely expensive (150 coin each). I tend to turtle, until I have the resources to keep attacking, wave by wave. I bring in mortars, and attack any defensive buildings (outposts, castles, etc.), and then bring my troops in to wipe out their military.

Does anyone have suggestions/specific strategies/guides?

Thanks!

Why doesn't this strategy work?

The 99999th King — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:02:19 GMT

Here's my usual DM strategy for the Russians:

1. 1 settler makes a house, 1 settler makes a church, 3 settlers make a blockhouse (make 3 or more blockhouses). Also the explorer should make a T center

2. After church is built, get mercentalism and get 5 shipments in the following order:

Fencing School

Dueling School

Blockhouse hitpoints

Blockhouse cannon

Riding School

3. Build 2-3 artillery foundries and make culverins and falconets

4. Spam musks.

5. Make stables and make 20-30 cossacks

6. Make 40 or more settlers and task them on mills and plantations

7. Get 4 blockhouse card and build blockhouses around your colony

8. Divide your forces and send them to different parts of your colony

9. Wait for your opponents to attack.

10. After a few of your opponent's mass attacks, counterattack him and win!

By the way, my rank is lance corporal.

German Treaty

zdss — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:11:05 GMT

Any one have tips for a german treaty? they can be very good i think

dutch Strategies

mad_scotsman94 — Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:34:22 GMT

Hello all,

I am new to the online gameplay and also the forums. I have been playing with the dutch in singleplayer games and have no experience playing online I am always loosing. Can anyone give me any advice in how to play online against other players please since. My strategy doesn't seem to be working at all.

Thanks.

mad_scotsman94. :)

deathmatch defense

ransack_ug — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 03:39:39 GMT

a lot of plyrs go all out on the offensive in dm, defense is overlooked quite often. should ur attack fail or they get ur base from behind defensive play can help

start of game u want to push for some map around half way is usly good

hav ur house vils begin walling ur town and ur forward vills start a half map divide (after suficent base is made)

once inital setup is done and an early attack is out the way real defensive walling can begin

as u push forward with mens u want to build wals as a backup. they provide a retreat for ur men and a defense so the enemy cant imediately go to ur base if ur army shuld lose.

as ur pushing forward walls then turn into an offense as u can take over map

of course oponent wil wall too. something often left out here is securing ur teritory. wen breaking through wals b sure to use ur front line vills to build a pathway through their wals so that even if they get a chance they cant rebuild the wall part u broke.

recommendation

walls dont have to streatch the entire map at the start using them for quick defnse is good here. use gates to run men through to save them. keeping ur forward base producing rather than being destroyed.

using a wall cannon push is strong cannons longbow behind walls...

walls can provide a maze dont make walls only in straight lines and dont organise military buildings spread them everywhere.

walling up batches of trees pays off

civ with card tht allow barack unit to make military building such as otto can help janisary can build forward and vills make ur wall.

wall pushing is far more effective in team games.

Non-laming DM players out there?

SilverStar — Sun, 06 Mar 2011 04:07:54 GMT

Whenever I host 1vs1 games there's always someone coming in and playing as Germans on nilla/tad, (the biggest issue) or Russia (the lamest dm civ) on Tad, and I have to wonder where are the people who play civs like Brits/France/warchiefs etc? I ask them to change civ (they're higher ranks too so it feels kind of unfair..even though they probably lame to get their rank) to something a little less OP so I can have a good match, and they just leave. (I have to admit I've played many people who only use Germans in DM and they don't even micro at all and truck right over your stuff ... so i'd like to know where the true pro's these days are.)

I fell in love with Brits and always use them as my signature DM civ and I would like to know if there's any people around Captain rank that maybe I can play with in Brits mirrors and such...anyone out there?

Thanks,

Nanook

a Few questions about DM

Vitekk — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:15:56 GMT

sorry for the trivial questions, but i would like to know :

Mills in DM (usually played in post-industrial at nilla) are fully upgraded (means + 15, + 30 improvement) or not? i usually put vills to mills, but lately thought if wasnt better to put them hunt (as in supremacy). If they are fully upgraded (not counting cards), then mills are almost the same as hunting.

how many food etd. does factory produce in a minute ? 500 ? factory (food,wood, etc.) is also improved in DM ? I have once saw the gathering rate but cant recall where it was and how much it was.

what exactly is manor boom ? if it requieres cards from hc,is it worth it? THX for replies :)

My Battle Strategies

TJByrum — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:34:55 GMT

I am only new here, so keep it easy on me. But this is what I have been using. I am not good at building bases, or a great economy, or even exploring the map and gaining allies and information. But I am very good when it boils down to managing your armies in the middle of a battle. Note that I use the British virtually the whole time. Not to mention, since I am a bit new, I play on Sandbox - Easy.

The Advance Force
Goals:
--Made for slowly advancing through enemy territory, penetrating defenses and demolishing whole towns.
Composition:
----Have some infantry on the frontline. Some howitzers located a bit behind them, but not close enough for the enemy to fire on them. Then, some culverins at a safe distance, ready to get to the frontlines to take out enemy Field Guns. A few field guns located behind you infantry to help with cavalry and infantry.
-A good-sized force of Musketeers, I use anywhere from 40-50. Hotkey them.
-A small group of Howitzers, about 5-10. Hotkey them.
-A small group of Culverins + Field Gun, about 5-10 of each. Hotkey them.
-An explorer is nice to have, to snipe some folks.
Engaging:
1. Your Infantry will advance just until you reach where enemy troops are located at. Not to close to engage them. When positioning them to face the enemy, use the Staggered Formation to spread them out good, then when in place, put on Stand Ground.
--Note: Some infantry shoot farther than others, and Stand Ground can be a disaster. If so, use the Defend Mode.
2. Have your Field Guns ready for any possible overwhelming infantry/cavalry.
3. Have Howitzers and Culverins away from the battle, but close enough to pull in.
4. Make the troops advance on your infantry. Do this by sending in a dummy shot, then retreat back to the main force. Or SNIPE using your Explorer. This engages the two armies.
5. Infantry VS Infantry will be fine. If Cavalry come out, use Melee Mode. If Cannons come out, retreat behind your Field Guns and bring in the Culverins.
6. Slowly advance and gain ground, using Infantry as a frontline wall, and Field Guns as support. Have Howitzers fire on enemy buildings you encounter. BE SURE to retreat if you see Field guns and then use your Culverins to take care of them.

The Counter Force (Best used against the French)
Goals:
--Await a time to counter the enemy and strike them when they're weak.

---Finish later.

Dutch vs. Ottomans

Leafstar — Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:55:05 GMT

For some reason, I have trouble defeating the Ottomans in a Deathmatch. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to defeat them? So far, I've been using a mix of Ryuters, Culverins, and Skirmishers.

Also, any other strategies for the Dutch would be appreciated. Thanks!

~Leafstar~

new

logan of ossus — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:50:40 GMT

hello i am new and i wanna play as the circle or at least the boneguard (both of them)

regards circle of ossus

Best Death Match Strategy

buckman — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:46:16 GMT

You must establish yourself first then you must look after your allies. You must also take great eyes on your enemies. Try to block the main ways for attacking.

Free units

phoenix18 — Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:04:12 GMT

I need a detailed explanation as to why the computer gets 100+ free units and I can only get like 40 through cards you can only use once. How do you get free units?