Treaty Strategy

Walling?

jobe12 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:03:33 GMT

Could I have some advice on walling?

Currently I am only putting 3-4 maybe 5 walls down

But trees always seem to get in my way...

Ports vs China Best non-op civ

Rezarecshun — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:11:47 GMT

CHina- fast artillery, 220 pop, best eco, decent training times, cheap armies, super walls, hand mortars(FTW!!), and flamethrowers, instant upgrade card

Portoguese- best skirms, best goons, best mortars, super walls, fast training times, fast artillery, organ guns, decent eco,

Whats fair and what ISNT

protonfusion — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:48:17 GMT

So i just got done with a game vs some 1st luits and Pedro_Paulo....

THE ENTIRE game this 1stLuit names TKeer or something is going way over HM and stealing all the resources...I told him hm.. but he doesnt listen... so I didnt really do anything since im aztec and I had plenty of wood to chop...

THEN right at 40 minutes he parks his army right at my walls.... has lancers all over the place preventing my villies from making more walls or a forward...

I ask him to respect HM 5 times... i even ask pedro to tell his team mate to move back... and they dont reply.... so then my team decides to break half map too....

SO i turn on town dance to make aztec super walls and park 50 jags at their walls.. and end up destroying their whole base since all his pop was tied up at my walls...

after their plan backfired... they start to call me a cheater.... and then TKeer starts to drop trick the game... but ends up lagging out after the 4th try..... and we end up with the win...

So what is really fair? was it wrong that I destroyed their base after they broke HM first and didnt move back after me and my team asking them over 5 times?

maybe i shouldnt even waste my time playing with 1st luits... since they dont understand what HALF MAP MEANS!!!!!

What civ beats what and why....

Rezarecshun — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:28:10 GMT

ME india, OTHER portuguese

I got owned sooo bad it wasn't even 50 mins until he broke 3 of my foward bases...then i gave up

ME Germany vs OTher portuguese

I owned the crap out of him he couldnt even touch my base because doppels with 5.87 speed ripped right through cassies and musks

ME Spain, OTHER british why does everyone do musketeer spam, its ridiculous but sure enough still win

ANy other sure fire wins with certain civs guys?

Best unit for each category.....

Rezarecshun — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:07:32 GMT

Pop plays a part in this and so do unit abilities, no aura or special units like daimyo, or mansabdar,etc.

Here's my opinion

Hand infantry- doppel

Skirm- yumi

musk- ashigaru

Anti-cav- Jinete

Hand cavalry- Gendarme

mortar-morutaru

cannon-horse artillery

Treaty is for noobs

shiznix++ — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:33:11 GMT

Discuss!

OP fight

carlos72 — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:48:16 GMT

ok here is the think. I just played a 2 vs 2 orinoco treaty . the team was me french my partner aztec vs a aztec and a russian we begin and ichoose to fight agaist the op the russian guy so we make it balance. well we start we where all ms, when i start the fight we where almost the same score i got 2200 for fur trade and he have 2170, we start and i begin with cuirassiers skir some halbs and 3 field gun we fight for 1o min spamming unit and units and when i look the score he as now 1700 and i was 2500 .... then he just get no resources and resign . The think its that french and russia are OP but in a 1 vs 1 russia vs french who will win? assuming both players are very good in my opinion i think the french will win the just never get oof resources and in any moment the russian guyy will go out of resources for instant inf what do you guys think?

pick my civ lol

LordcaseyVI — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:11:26 GMT

i have ben throguh every civ and im really nt good at picking 1 from now on im just gonna ask ppl who they think i should be, you all probably wont decide it finally but it wud b interesting to see who u all think i should be for treaty keeping in mine i do 3v3 or 2v2 and my allies are pretty much always japs

starting army?

prashady — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:42:45 GMT

what is your starting army with ALL the civs u play?

for my russia:

30 opric + 1 dragoon (from church) box

hussars and dragoons (from church) 10 muskets (away from each other to build forts) and 30 halbs

i also want to know what starting army should i have for brits?

German over ports

Rezarecshun — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:23:24 GMT

Am i the only one who thinks this? I love germans and the fact that they aren't an easy civ to use.

1.doppels!!! TEEHEE

2. War wagons are beast

3. settler wagons!!!! TEEHEE

4. Great (GREAT!!!!) late game eco

russian eco

prashady — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:30:03 GMT

what is ideal amount of resources to have at end of 40? (with spies?) (without spies)

also how should u divide up ur eco at end of 40?

i usually do 50 food 40 gold 9 wood/building factories on wood

The paradox of rank (discussion for all players PR 31+)

protonfusion — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:09:31 GMT

Maybe its the time im getting online or i dunno but....Lately it seems that many of the “treaty elite” have stopped playing as much. Clans of good players (TKC, LFV, TGR, TRT etc etc) have seen either their high rankers move on to other games or go down to playing 1 game a week. This presents a special quagmire for all high ranking players because now there are fewer games that we can play. Why is this? Well this exist because as less high rankers play, it gets harder and harder for us to get games because most players PR 26 and down will kick anybody with a PR above 32. They claim we are “to high” to play. So what is one to do when he sign’s on and all the treaty games are being hosted by low ranked players who are afraid to play with higher ranked players…. Never has proton ever had a smurf account but it seems that’s all there is left to do these days as more and more of the elite guard move on.

ok next one........hardest civ?

LordcaseyVI — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:14:45 GMT

ok i want to know peoples opinions on waht the hardest civ is this time with an explanation y if possible?

Op-ness

Rezarecshun — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:21:46 GMT

I think that anyone who uses france, japan, or russia is a n00b. Would you guys consider this a correct assumption?

Russia- opries, instant infantry, and forts

Japan- ashigarus and daimyo

France-...................................no comment

am i cheap or what?

xmugiwara — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:26:50 GMT

when someone dced from the 2v2/3v3/4v4 game basically leave them defenseless, now do u consider that cheap if u break into their base so u can attack his/her teammates from the side instead of trying to break thru from the front of the active players? someone yelled at me for "cheap move" for doing that, to me i dont really see a problem with it since one person will end up facing a 2v1 situation anyway, it's kinda like his/her own problem for not putting up any defense/walls between teammates

so china is op?

prashady — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:08:28 GMT

i think its generally assumed by treaty community

french
japan
russia

are op...

so i joined this game "no op nr40"

and i decided to play china...they said china was op and i should change...

so dont u think its a bit exaggerated now?

Artillery - Falconet vs. Horse Artillery

Deathby28 — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:58:33 GMT

Well I've been playing treaty for a while now and I noticed how effective artillery can actually be and I've raise a few questions:

-What are some of the compelling differences between falconets and horse cannon artillery?

-What is the best way to protect artillery (assuming the enemy switched from large amounts of gunpowder infantry, to a decent amount of melee cavalry and pikemen.

-What are some of the best battle field strategies involving artillery cannons?

-Is there a way to assign muskets to surround the artillery in a box formation? Like setting them both to defensive?

...Yes, these are all noob questions and I would be glad if someone could set me in the right direction.

Thanks,

How to counter OP civs

Kolya Medz — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:02:09 GMT

OK, i just finished a 2v2 40min nb treaty game. I was ports as usual, but 30 sec into the game my ally leaves.

So here i am 2v1, guess who my enemies are? Japanese and French.. lovely. The treaty ended and I was able to turtle them for an hour and a half before they finally got lucky and broke through.

Gendarm spam from french and ashi, niginata, flaming arrow spam from Japanese .

So does anyone have any stratagies to use against civs considered OP? Not just for ports but for anyone you play as. How does one win a 2v1 against op civs?

I see all these "OMFG those french are so overpowered! stupid gendarm spammers!!!" threads.

well what i dont see is a "how to counter stratagy when fighting op civs." thread

Spain 2102!!

goldengold — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:16:31 GMT

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=7a46dba149d538db24a64199ac7f73e5e04e75f6e8ebb871

All the units i use upgraded, no trade route, 5 mines, 5 herds, 5 walls.

What program can i use to see recordings ?

carlos72 — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:56:57 GMT

I want to know what program should i use to see recordings . I alwas download some recording and never let me open it so if you know some program or you can help me i will appreciate guys

French fur trade boom...?

Deathby28 — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:58:38 GMT

-The following refers to: The Asian Dynasties

Alright Well I'm a lv 16 Sergeant (15.969) and I've been quite successful with the french fur trade boom and the last 3v3 nr 40 game I played I noticed an ally on my team had 4 livestock pens and 3 mills. I was ahead of him for most of the game economic wise, but then he started to get an edge on me once the treaty was over... I started to wonder, because by the end of the game he had at least 500 points on me (Not to mention this German noob had Uhlans in my economy before my walls were up). Anyway... to the point... Is there a way to combine the fur trade with the cow boom in order to make the french boom more successful for a team game? The reason I'm questioning it so much is because the game I saw it in I had only 46 villagers left (stupid HM Uhlans). Which certainly didn't allow for an efficient comparison. I attempted to try a combination with cow boom/fur trade and I was very unsuccessful, my villagers were consistently idle, and I couldn't see where to put my other villagers so I made more mills... This all could have been solved if I recorded the game.. LOL Anyway, If someone experienced enough with either of the french boom strategies and, and could help me out, that would be great.

(sorry you had to read so much...) LOL

Eco Score

Jbm13 — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:27:21 GMT

Hey what i got in a treaty game at the end of treaty was 3000... anyone care to match that... without lying or flaming?

New guy for the pest list ( Steffinho )

protonfusion — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:00:48 GMT

3v3 andes... teams

protonfusion

vanadium

saintTree

bedingbedang

steffinho

kiyoshi_kanza

game starts out... after fighting I have control of indians and we have destroyed kiyoshi_kanza's base due to Vanadium overpowering him. After kanza's factories went down Steffinho starts to talk in german to Kanza about OOS ... and about 1 minute later the game OOS. This is verified by people on their own team.

take it for what you want but Steffinho is def. a cheater/ and Kanza is suspect. In fact right after game Kanza signs on under Trajan acount. Spread the word on all the clan boards and cheaters list... this guy and all his smurf accounts should be avoided at all cost.

india vs. Germany

Rezarecshun — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:01:12 GMT

Any thoughts guys?

Assume that both players are highly skilled with the given civilizations

ottoman recording 2200+

BuZz_D — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:28:56 GMT

25-30-50 resources at 40 if i remember correctly. 16 min imperial time.

this was done a few months ago, but ive worked on this civ for years. the mosque has changed over the years with the upgrades and the last change made me switch otto up to something not seen for treaty. otto is a civ that has card space issues, along with worthless cards at the same time. so i, after much thought i use this boom/eco distrobution vs the other civs and otto because it will last purely because of the amount of gold. vills should be 50food, 50gold at 40 mins.

so, delete vills from food periodicly after the battle starts and use the space for extra cannons. a good mix of a hand full of culv,20 jans 10 cav archer the rest abus should do the job after the initial army. otto doesnt have hard counters to all other civs except the mele of jans, so micro the cav and jans to protect the abus. do not move the abus or they will not be doing there job......owning everything. once set up with a good forward base the abus can get moved in the pathways between buildings. less micro the better for abus. just let them shoot and micro other units for the most part. of coarse eventually they need to be moved but im just giving the basics. i may have posted this somewhere before, either here or the trt site. but i thought its own topic would be better. ENJOY

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/2/10/1750731/BuZz_D%20%20%20OttO_Man.age3Yrec