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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://forum.agecommunity.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Treaty Strategy</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/1034/ShowForum.aspx</link><description>Asian Dynasties treaty strategy discussions</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 SP2 (Debug Build: 61120.2)</generator><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824404.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:14:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:824404</guid><dc:creator>James</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824404.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=824404</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;yes folks its that time again. todays fail award goes to the poster and anyone who actually wasted their time answering. this question has no context at all, and half of you answered, without having any idea what he was talking about, and the other half bitched at each other lol. then theres metis who just typed some lomg paragraph about various gathering rates or whatever. i assume it was gathering rates, but im not going to put myself through reading that.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/fr33t0/failwash.jpg"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824039.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:57:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:824039</guid><dc:creator>J0Nn1D</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824039.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=824039</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Why are you using a farm with only 10 villies?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You should be hunting dude!! &amp;nbsp;deers&amp;nbsp;taste&amp;nbsp;goooood, &amp;nbsp;buffalo taste goooood.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You shouldn't even be thinking about upgrading mills until your natural resource (mines, hunts) become depleted.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;By this time, you should easily have enough gold to get your mill / plant. upgrades and capitol upgrades (You don't want to be using mills until you get the 50% from the capitol)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824037.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:49:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:824037</guid><dc:creator>XpLoDe_RcF</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824037.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=824037</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;"&gt;I build a farm and up grade it before I run out of hunts and I also send cards increased gather rates for farms. I also do this with plantations so when you have to move to them you’re gather rates are still good.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;"&gt;If you have 1k food what age are you in? You should be making constant villagers out of as many town centres as possible.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:'Times New Roman';mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA;"&gt;It would be useful to make cows with any spare food and get a better return once they have fattened. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824034.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:22:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:824034</guid><dc:creator>Hanzo_Razor</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824034.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=824034</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Go for upgrades first, they cost wood and gold, so it wont stop u from making vills. You make that 1st mill when yre able and keep upgrading while u gather from natural resources. By the time youre ready to build all mills, they are all upgraded, and yr villies are rolling in the resources. Id get market upgrades asap, obviously bc it enhances yr gathering from natural resources with the vils u already have, and as the new ones are trained, they gather faster straight away.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But I mean in treaty... its just as long as you dont forget to make upgrades lol.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824033.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:20:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:824033</guid><dc:creator>Pinkey Flowery</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824033.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=824033</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Boxerman:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Makig 30 vills in discovery is suicide. If you play any rusher, ANY RUSHER, You will get completly owned. To make 30 vills the MAKE time is 15 minutes. Plus gather makes that more like 18. A good rusher can be inside your base in 9 minutes. An okay in 11. A terrible rusher is 14 minutes, and that's still before you even start aging, even if you start out with 12 villagers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A rush at 9 mins is too slow.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Make vils over early upgrades. &lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824028.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:08:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:824028</guid><dc:creator>SilentNightmare_</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824028.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=824028</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;xmugiwara:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;SilentNightmare_:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Sillything:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;savorybeef:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;how about you do both.......sigh&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;how bout u read the situation properly, it takes wood and gold to upgrade farms&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;SilentNightmare_:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;LMAO &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;yep, that's for urself, posting for the sake of posting that contribute nothing to the post&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;alanspunks:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;sure this a bait thread!!!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;well the so-called bait worked since u actually wasted couple seconds to reply and read?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Shut your ugly discusting mouth u *** ...trying to act like fuckin doctor phil &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;oh lol apparently ur mouth's more "disgusting" than hers, and indeed ugave me nothing but trash so if u prefer dirty talk then u can go EATDlCK &lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;U wish I would u dirty ***... u really wish I would so your dream would come true &lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824021.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:59:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:824021</guid><dc:creator>xmugiwara</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824021.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=824021</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;SilentNightmare_:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Sillything:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;savorybeef:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;how about you do both.......sigh&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;how bout u read the situation properly, it takes wood and gold to upgrade farms&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;SilentNightmare_:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;LMAO&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;yep, that's for urself, posting for the sake of posting that contribute nothing to the post&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;alanspunks:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;sure this a bait thread!!!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;well the so-called bait worked since u actually wasted couple seconds to reply and read?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Shut your ugly discusting mouth u *** ...trying to act like fuckin doctor phil&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;oh lol apparently ur mouth's more "disgusting" than hers, and indeed u
gave me nothing but trash so if u prefer dirty talk then u can go EAT
DlCK &lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824017.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:48:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:824017</guid><dc:creator>SilentNightmare_</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824017.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=824017</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Sillything:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;savorybeef:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;how about you do both.......sigh&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;how bout u read the situation properly, it takes wood and gold to upgrade farms&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;SilentNightmare_:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;LMAO &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;yep, that's for urself, posting for the sake of posting that contribute nothing to the post&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;alanspunks:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;sure this a bait thread!!!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;well the so-called bait worked since u actually wasted couple seconds to reply and read?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Shut your ugly discusting mouth u *** ...trying to act like fuckin doctor phil &lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824011.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:41:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:824011</guid><dc:creator>Vorpahl</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/824011.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=824011</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Metis:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember that gathering upgrades are a percentage of the &lt;i&gt;base&lt;/i&gt; gathering rate. Un-upgraded standard settlers gather at the rate of 0.67 food per second from a mill. A 15% mill upgrade will up the gathering rate to 0.77 food per second. The difference, therefore, for 10 settlers would amount to about one additional settler, for 20 settlers about three additional settlers, and with thirty settlers about five additional settlers. So the more settlers you have the more the upgrades are worth. This is why it’s often best to ignore early upgrades and instead produce more settlers. Once you have your econ set up and have extra resources then you can start getting the upgrades.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;+1, best post on this thread. &lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Your knowledge of this game never suprises me, thank you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/823995.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:14:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:823995</guid><dc:creator>Sillything</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/823995.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=823995</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;savorybeef:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;how about you do both.......sigh&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;how bout u read the situation properly, it takes wood and gold to upgrade farms&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;SilentNightmare_:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;LMAO&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;yep, that's for urself, posting for the sake of posting that contribute nothing to the post&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;alanspunks:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;sure this a bait thread!!!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;well the so-called bait worked since u actually wasted couple seconds to reply and read?&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/823993.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:54:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:823993</guid><dc:creator>alanspunks</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/823993.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=823993</wfw:commentRss><description>sure this a bait thread!!!&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/823953.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:04:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:823953</guid><dc:creator>SilentNightmare_</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/823953.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=823953</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.agecommunity.com/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;xmugiwara:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;say i have 1k food and 10 settlers working on a farm, and assuming all market upgrades are already done, would it be wise to upgrade farm to increase gather speed or is it actually better to create 10 more settlers to gather food/other resources?&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LMAO &lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/823942.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:23:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:823942</guid><dc:creator>Metis</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/823942.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=823942</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;FONT size=2&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Remember that gathering upgrades are a percentage of the &lt;EM&gt;base&lt;/EM&gt; gathering rate. Un-upgraded standard settlers gather at the rate of 0.67 food per second from a mill. A 15% mill upgrade will up the gathering rate to 0.77 food per second. The difference, therefore, for 10 settlers would amount to about one additional settler, for 20 settlers about three additional settlers, and with thirty settlers about five additional settlers. So the more settlers you have the more the upgrades are worth. This is why it’s often best to ignore early upgrades and instead produce more settlers. Once you have your econ set up and have extra resources then you can start getting the upgrades.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/823894.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:08:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:823894</guid><dc:creator>savorybeef</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/823894.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=823894</wfw:commentRss><description>how about you do both.......sigh&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: upgrade or produce?</title><link>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/823891.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:04:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">50924996-b13e-4713-b45b-a7ea483affa6:823891</guid><dc:creator>1x1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/thread/823891.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1034&amp;PostID=823891</wfw:commentRss><description>well obviously the 10 villagers becuase then it would be a 100% increase in production, wheras if you research a milling tech it'll only give you an extra ~15%</description></item></channel></rss>