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I consider myself to be quite good with russia because its the only civ i use and i would like to know if my stratagy is good in any of your opinions. First thing is when the treaty ends my score is sitting somewhere around the 1300 mark. I have no idea if this is a good score or not but id like to think so :)

 At the end of treaty i have:

50 villies on mills, 40 villies on plantation, 9 on wood and factories on wood. The nine on wood i send out to build and what not. Russia is not a very wood dependant civilization, some will argue this but from my playing with them i have found i dont need very much wood. I usually have around 20k food, 15k gold and about 8k wood. please tell me if you think these numbers are good or not.

Anyway i for one do use strelets, when you have all advanced arsenal improvements and the 3 cards improving strelets they can be very very effective. I played my friends in a 2v1 and i used strelets to fight aztec and another low levelled russian city. I won....of course by using strelets. They get up to 220 health i think and like 23 attack, those figures could be very wronge but i think they are about right.

I use horse artillery, mortars and culverin. I mainly use strelets and musketeers, because strelets for infantry and muskets for cav. Hals and grenadiers are like my clean up crew for destroying bases. Orchpriniks and for distractions hehehe. And cav archers and purely for french cav. I just fill my walls with em and watch the gendarms fall.

 Anyway please comment on my stratagy, because i want to know how i can perfect it. Also add me and look at my decks so you can see my cards if you want. My online name is just DarkHex.

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You figure yourself quite good with the Russians, though you don't get a higher score than 1300??
You should be able to get up to 1800/1900 after 40 mins treaty. Simple strat:

1. Put vills food. Build 17 vills. Age.
2. Put 10 vills food, 7 coin. Build 3 additional vills on gold. Age. Put gold vills on wood.
3. Build 2 extra tc's. Then build 10 on coin. Now you have 10/10/10.
4. Spam vills till you can age to 4. Age.
5. Get 50 vills on food. 30 on coin and 20 on wood. You should be able to get around 60k food, 20k wood and 30k coin after 40 mins.

You will need alot of wood cause the main Russian strategy is fort-hopping and any player over mst serg will be able to get your fort down without too much trouble. And you use alot of Strelets you said. They cost wood. Now... Use a combo of Strelets and Musks. Use Oprichniks and Halberdiers for sieging. Build a couple of blockhouses near their base and spam some artillery. Win.

 

Sorry to put u2 down, but neither of these stratagies are too good.  1300 is a very low score, and i believe that your problem is most likely your aging times/maxing out vills.  At 40 minutes, i NEVER have under a 2000 score with my russians.  I have come by very few people who can compete with my russian eco at 40 minutes.  The main reason that people have diffuculty geeting a good eco with them is their villie production.

This is the first time i am writing about my russsain strat at all, so if you dont believe me ask any good player about my russians.

ANway,

Age 1 make 26 vills befor u age.  I understand that you can age way before that, but it serves no purpose, aside form slowing you down form booming.  All vills u start wiht go to food after collecting starting eco.  First 3 made go to food also.  Next 3 to gold, next 3 to wood, 3 to food, next 6 to gold, last 3 to food.  this gives 14 on food, 9 on gold, and 3 on wood.  The 3 on wood should cut 100 by the time u need a house.  When u are aging, take 3 off gold and pt to wood, and send the wood card to age.  When u hit age 2, u should immedietlly age to 3 and send sevestapool at the same time.  When u hit age 3, u should have enouh wood to make your 3 tc's and have pleanty of food to spam 9 vills at a time.  U sually first 9 go to food also, so i can keep making vills.  The rest depends on map and resources needed at time.  Get market upgrades asap.  Hit industrial with 27-26 minutes left in treaty (at least), Imperial with 23-22(at least).  Many maps differ and some are slower than others, but russain have a great boom if done this way and you max out vills fast. 

Russains should be very wood dependent, and that is not because of forts, it is for stretlets.  If you dont use stretlets against a descent player he will own you.  Muskets mixed in with the very underated Russian artillery.

Hope this is clear enough for you.  If you need any help, post or whisper me online, or check my decks for card help.

 

_gitzco

I also use Russia for treaty games, and I agree with the guy who said that 1300 is a pretty low score after 40 minutes.  You should be above 2000 by then.  I personally don't bother with Strelets when musks and halbs are so much stronger.  Oprichniks are awesome for raiding - something like 130 siege damage when upgraded, makes them almost as good as artillery against buildings, but much faster.  DarkHex, if you add me I'll 1v1 you sometime and we can compare strategies. :)

Personally I rather use Grenadiers instead of Strlets as they have better siege and kill infantry faster. Well this is my strat which can get you upto a 2100 score on Andes.

Age 1 make 29 villes. First off 3 villes on food 2 on wood. Then next 6 on food, next 3 on gold, next 3 on food, next 6 on gold and next 3 to wood. You should finish all the age 1 market upgrades. When you click age to II, organise your villes into 11 on food, 14 on wood and 4 on gold. You should just age straight upto age III. While you age to III, get age 2 wood and food upgrade. Send sevastapol while aging to III. Build 2 Tcs AFTER the card send. Then put 3-5 on wood, 7-8 on gold and rest on food. All tc on food until you get around 33 villes on food then switch all tcs to gold. Then spam villes and control your resources to get u age up to V fast.

Well, right when treaty ends, send like 10 musks to go build 2 forts right be opponent base, then have all fast infantry techs and cards and have instant spam 100 or so musks, economy should be able to hold up. Just keep pressuring his/her town and then delete forts when the frontlines of the battle change so you can build new forts.

Gitzo's BO is very similar to mine, with 26 vills age 1.. etc. The most important card here is the church card, it will boost your score by about 300 and make your first attack stronger.

wow i have to say that i have never seen anybody get a score of over 2000 before the treaty ends with any civ other than germany. Also i do play againt 1st leuts and sarge's. Captains just kick me lol. Anyway, i gave one of your guys stratagies a shot, the one where you start with 26 vills then gae, using that got me to a score of around 1500 before the end of the treaty. Although i will need to practice it alot more to get a higher score. Also whoever said somethin about not using strelets they are retarded. Strelets are really really good and then are russia's inly access to anti infantry. apart from artillery of course.

There is no way you play Captains and Lts and not seen them with a score of 2000 or more after treaty ends, that is not possible especially with french civ a score of 2000 is almost automatic with fur trade, a decent french player will have atleast 100,000 gold after fur trade

2000 or more is easy with French, Germans, Ports, Indians, Russians

And sorry but Strelets are the weakest skirm in the game, not to say dont use them but they arnt really really good

SO many of you are way off, stretlets are one of the best infantry for the cost.  How can you go wrong for so cheap.  And for that guy that said musks are string, you must be pretty awful playing russains.  Making 29 vills is too much, and slows down your max vill time and age 5 time a lot.  Grenadiers are a great anti infantry unit, but are very tough to protect.  Tarters do not ki9ll cav fast enough unless maxed.  Stretlet with musk tarter and artillery is so strong.