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  •  07-30-2008, 2:44 PM 729605
    Dr.Rey Dr.Rey is not online. Last active: 11-19-2008, 2:38 PM
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    Subject: Port vs China: Can port possibly win?

    Ive had a few people argue with me that a equal level port vs and equal level china player can pull of the win over china.

    Tell you the truth i havent seen it, even at times ive seen a weaker china player beat a good port player.  China just has their # in my opinion.  China cannons are cheap (being the key thing) and great range with good attack.  While cho ko's are just out right deadly on any infantry ports can send.  Hussars, plz, just a meatshield against a giant army that has an eco made for heavy losses, not to mention keshik and quing.

     You guys seen any equal level port players take out a china?  dont post some goofy NOOB response like you but a conscript or something.

  •  07-31-2008, 4:28 PM 730106 in reply to 729605
    eliotyuhin99 eliotyuhin99 is not online. Last active: 29-10-2008, 5:47 AM
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    Subject: Re: Port vs China: Can port possibly win?
    Ports hussars are not good enough, So they have no chance against China.
  •  07-31-2008, 4:31 PM 730107 in reply to 729605
    mykai mykai is not online. Last active: 09-04-2008, 6:19 PM
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    Subject: Re: Port vs China: Can port possibly win?
    Notonly that, but china's villages get rid of port's TC advantage.

    Ports UP
    China UP
    India OP
    Japan OP
    Brits OK
    Russians OK
    Sioux UP
    Iroquis UP
    Aztecs OP
    Spanish UP
    Ottoman OK
    Germany OP
    French OP
    Dutch OK
  •  07-31-2008, 5:19 PM 730126 in reply to 729605
    lincolnking93 lincolnking93 is not online. Last active: 08-12-2008, 8:28 PM
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    Subject: Re: Port vs China: Can port possibly win?
    it is not that hard 2 beat a china player as ports. all you have to do is spam goons, huss, cass and either horse artill or organ guns to keep them busy while your 50 range morters destroy the walls and war acadamies.
  •  07-31-2008, 5:31 PM 730136 in reply to 730126
    1x1 1x1 is not online. Last active: Mon, Nov 24 2008, 3:43 PM
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    Subject: Re: Port vs China: Can port possibly win?
    That's a lot of units to spam

    Mantlets first are wood heavy units, and die fast from ranged inf..



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  •  07-31-2008, 5:47 PM 730139 in reply to 730136
    Redavenge Redavenge is not online. Last active: 11-23-2008, 1:55 AM
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    Subject: Re: Port vs China: Can port possibly win?
    The Chinese player could counter that with mostly Old Han Armies, along with a few Forbidden Armies or Hand Mortars to take out the cannons.
  •  07-31-2008, 6:37 PM 730155 in reply to 730139
    justesen justesen is not online. Last active: 12/01/2008, 10:18 AM
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    Subject: Re: Port vs China: Can port possibly win?

     

    in 1on1 andes ports will own the azz of china.

     

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  •  07-31-2008, 10:45 PM 730274 in reply to 730155
    SomeHillbilly SomeHillbilly is not online. Last active: 11-29-2008, 4:02 PM
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    Subject: Re: Port vs China: Can port possibly win?
    in 1on1 andes China will run over a ports player
  •  07-31-2008, 11:38 PM 730296 in reply to 730274
    Metis Metis is not online. Last active: Sat, Oct 04 2008, 8:34 AM
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    Subject: Re: Port vs China: Can port possibly win?

    China can be tough to counter especially those Monks and their Disciples if fully carded and upgraded. However, in a recent game I was able to advance on a China player using a combination of hussar to worry the archers (who would start firing at them, thus leaving my infantry alone), dragoons for the cav, and those multi-barrel cannon surrounded with halberds and musketeers with a couple of mortars thrown in as my main force. All this followed by a couple of settlers to build stables, barracks and the occasional artillery foundry as I advanced. Unfortunately just as I was at the Chinese econ my Ottoman and Russian teammates were overrun by the Aztec and Port players on the other team, who were doing essentially the same thing as I was.

  •  08-01-2008, 2:39 AM 730368 in reply to 729605
    Amorphous Amorphous is not online. Last active: 10-02-2008, 4:49 PM
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    Subject: Re: Port vs China: Can port possibly win?
    outside the walls, ports may at least hold off the chinese by motaring down their baracks using long range motars. Because chinese army trains slowly, that can cause a headache. Takes a great deal of skills, though, as the chinese motars are good too. once the chinese turtle behind their great mighty walls, ports will never break in, even for a good ports against a mediocre (but reasonable) china player.
  •  08-01-2008, 3:16 AM 730375 in reply to 730368
    Metis Metis is not online. Last active: Sat, Oct 04 2008, 8:34 AM
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    Subject: Re: Port vs China: Can port possibly win?

    Relatively few players use Great Wall of China. Sure it makes the walls strong but there is a drawback – when they are broken they can’t be fixed in time to prevent an opponent from rushing in (the Great Wall card also slows build time tremendously). Also, 5 Port mortars have little trouble with the China walls anyway. The secret is to use that 50 range (longer than anything else in the game but the monitor long shot) to ones advantage as you can keep your mortars beyond the range of the China anti-artillery hand mortars, or even a culverin.

    I simply love those long-range mortars. I once won a game on Orinoco simply by sending a handful of mortars to the edge of my the river, far from the battle at the pass, and mortaring half of the enemy base, including the Aztec firepit, to smithereens as he had mistakenly built too close. I guess he liked that scenic river view.

    The big problem with China is those flying crows, but a couple of culverins or a hussar raid will often take care of them. Relatively few China players use flamethrowers too, but they are really the secret weapon against massed infantry.

  •  08-01-2008, 3:36 AM 730377 in reply to 730368
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    Subject: Re: Port vs China: Can port possibly win?