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  •  08-05-2008, 6:01 AM 732581
    julioc julioc is not online. Last active: 08-07-2008, 4:11 PM
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    Subject: Top Civs

    Hi, which would you consider are the Top Civs right now? And why?

    Thanks.

  •  08-05-2008, 6:23 AM 732587 in reply to 732581
    Elzar Elzar is not online. Last active: 05-08-2009, 9:03 AM
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    Subject: Re: Top Civs

    Japan - If rushed really well can't be stopped.

    India - The Agra fort and a good rush is hard to stop if the rush is done well.

    British - Long Bow/ Pike late to mid time rush is good, especially with a booming eco behind it.

    Germany - A good rushing civilization with 9 xbow plus 2 Uhlan card. Can rush really well with infantry and cavalry.

    They are some of my favourite civilizations to use in non treaty games. If used correctly they can all be quite deadly. 




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  •  08-07-2008, 12:46 AM 733378 in reply to 732587
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    Subject: Re: Top Civs

    1. Japan: Good rush + excellent boom, lategame mobile military production (daimyos + shogun), LG 125 military pop, unradable and solid economy.

    2. India: Heavy age 2 counter system, good eco, good lategame

    3. German: Early game very flexible, huge civilian shipments.

    4. British: Good rush followed by manor boom. GG at 10 mins.

     


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  •  08-07-2008, 12:50 AM 733379 in reply to 733378
    Hongsloi Hongsloi is not online. Last active: Sat, Apr 11 2009, 8:44 PM
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    Subject: Re: Top Civs

    You both forgot about Aztecs.

    Their Macehaultins and Puma Spear men are cost effective and powerful. Not to mension they have a counter for skirmishers in the war hut


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  •  08-07-2008, 1:15 AM 733381 in reply to 733379
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    Subject: Re: Top Civs
    Raven_474:

    You both forgot about Aztecs.

    Their Macehaultins and Puma Spear men are cost effective and powerful. Not to mension they have a counter for skirmishers in the war hut

     

    Aztecs are da best 



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  •  08-07-2008, 6:30 AM 733462 in reply to 733378
    Elzar Elzar is not online. Last active: 05-08-2009, 9:03 AM
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    Subject: Re: Top Civs
    TheLilRatchet:

    1. Japan: Good rush + excellent boom, lategame mobile military production (daimyos + shogun), LG 125 military pop, unradable and solid economy.

    2. India: Heavy age 2 counter system, good eco, good lategame

    3. German: Early game very flexible, huge civilian shipments.

    4. British: Good rush followed by manor boom. GG at 10 mins.

     

    LOL same as me. Oh and Aztec are good at rushing :P 




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  •  08-07-2008, 9:42 AM 733516 in reply to 733462
    julioc julioc is not online. Last active: 08-07-2008, 4:11 PM
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    Subject: Re: Top Civs
    Thanks everybody. Seems like a good consensus that Japan is first and India follows. I just wonder why in recent WCG matches Germans seems to always beat any other civ.
  •  08-07-2008, 9:59 AM 733523 in reply to 733516
    pr0methi0us pr0methi0us is not online. Last active: 07-03-2009, 6:48 PM
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    Subject: Re: Top Civs
    not to sure about japan being # 1...any fast rush civ can own japan.  ive been up against alot of japan players and it always seems that japan does bad against a good russian rush.

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  •  08-07-2008, 3:37 PM 733654 in reply to 733523
    rescawen rescawen is not online. Last active: 01-24-2009, 3:15 PM
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    Subject: Re: Top Civs
    true
  •  08-07-2008, 4:09 PM 733663 in reply to 733523
    Hongsloi Hongsloi is not online. Last active: Sat, Apr 11 2009, 8:44 PM
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    Subject: Re: Top Civs

    pr0methi0us:
    not to sure about japan being # 1...any fast rush civ can own japan.  ive been up against alot of japan players and it always seems that japan does bad against a good russian rush.

    maybe its because all the Japan players you've fought have been noobs. 


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  •  08-07-2008, 8:45 PM 733769 in reply to 733663
    pr0methi0us pr0methi0us is not online. Last active: 07-03-2009, 6:48 PM
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    lol, 2nd lt and above is what i play, some maybe noobs, but im sure most will own u.

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  •  08-07-2008, 10:12 PM 733792 in reply to 733769
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    Subject: Re: Top Civs

    1: Japan - There main weakness is an Early Rush and a good rush. Later they're a nutshell Angry

     2: India - Other than the Agrea fort rush. I"ve never seen such other srats. As The 10/10 Sepoy rush drives you mad

    3: France - There Rush isn't all that great but there powerful Ec. makes them afrod Troops and defences.

    4: British - The Classic Mannor boom makes the british ec. great, and good ec. leads to a good milltry.

     5: Germany - Packs mean punched units. So they'll get rid of there counters fast. + the 9 X bow card and Uhlans with Every shipment you can struggle to push them early.


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  •  08-07-2008, 11:34 PM 733826 in reply to 733462
    TheLilRatchet TheLilRatchet is not online. Last active: 05-01-2009, 10:34 PM
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    Subject: Re: Top Civs
    Elzar:
    TheLilRatchet:

    1. Japan: Good rush + excellent boom, lategame mobile military production (daimyos + shogun), LG 125 military pop, unradable and solid economy.

    2. India: Heavy age 2 counter system, good eco, good lategame

    3. German: Early game very flexible, huge civilian shipments.

    4. British: Good rush followed by manor boom. GG at 10 mins.

     

    LOL same as me. Oh and Aztec are good at rushing :P 

     

    Hmmm... just didnt agree with brits as 3rd best..


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  •  08-08-2008, 12:59 PM 734062 in reply to 733826
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    Subject: Re: Top Civs

    1. Japan- i like the ashigaru musketeers because if u have large numbers they can be effective

    2.India- I like Sepoys because they are a powerful musketeer and then they are good a mele

    3. Britian- the infiantry and artillery

    4. Germany- Free Heavy Cavalry


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  •  08-12-2008, 4:38 AM 735765 in reply to 734062
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    Subject: Re: Top Civs
    redskins:

    1. Japan- i like the ashigaru musketeers because if u have large numbers they can be effective

    LOL, "can be effective" ?  They are the most effective unit in any normal game because of their speed and their numerous upgrades.

    Japan is clearly the best civ by far, especially in the lower middle ranks. It's just that when these Jap players rise in rank because they win against equally skilled opponents with weaker or harder to play civs (Japs are strong AND easy to play), they face opponents who are not only clearly more skilled but also used to face Japs because if you do quicksearch you face 70% Japs.

    India is strong too, but is not so easy to play. Especially Agra rush is hazardrous if not done right as you sacrifice a lot of eco for it. Also their greatest advantage is their versability in age 2, but that is not brought onto the table by itself like OP'ed Ashigaru and Yumi.

    The Germans are strong as well with their good shipments and Uhlans finally fulfilling their role. However a typical age 2 force will relay on X-Bows and X-Bows do not cut it against good HI (say Achigaru & Sepoy). However germany can defend well from a Agra-rush and have a better eco afterwards and is fast enough to rush Japs nicely without sacrificing eco too much.

    Aztecs are very good but suffer from being a TWC civ as quite some players forget to activate the  "TWC allowed" button on quicksearch or simply do not have TWC :/ They can produce everything they need from a warhut and be very fast. Maces are very cost efficient and Pumas are just awesome early siegers/anti-cav. Also they have one of the best mid game booms.

    The british are not that good in the middle ranks but are in the lower when games are slower. Against a decent opponent you can't really manor boom early and the longbow is now worse than ever with hand cavalry slaughtering them. A two-stable Hussar spam as shown by Ourk might surprise most opponents but is not that useful against the ever present Japs and also is easily countered by India.

    Iros, Russian and French are quite good if played well, in league with the brits I would say. They have their strengths and weaknesses and are more or less ok against the top 3 civs (Russia for instance does ok against Japan with a fast rush but sucks against India and Germany).

    Spanish, Chinese and Ottoman are slightly sub par. They can be ok if played well but really only have a chance with the right countertactic and a bit of luck.

    Dutch and Ports are abysmal really. Ports even more than dutch as they are just as weak but harder to play. These civs bonuses simply don't cut it. Banks are expensive and age 2 skirms are nothing special. Age 3 is ok (not great but ok) for both civs but usually they loose their game in Age 2.

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