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Before i go ahead with it i need to know from the people in this forum.

Would an Indian "bluff 10 out 10 ff" work?

i was lying in my bed trying to go to sleep by think about AoE 3 strats and it came into my mind.

i was thinking to hit the enemy with 12 sepoys by 5 minutes like normal and he will think your going to keep rushing but then you go to the fortress.

would this work? 

Raven_474:

 

i was lying in my bed trying to go to sleep by think about AoE 3 strats

rofl

I don't see why it wouldn't work,except that they might realise what your doing and attack you. You should try it.

I don't see why not if you do it fast. Especially if you got an Agra to help you from a random attack.

I sleep and think about random ideas too :P 

TheLilRatchet:

No IMO it wont work: you have no time to build up an eco! How're going to spam  units and upgrade them! (or you're telling me you're trying to shipment spam... but lemme tell ya that you have a -15% on your shipments..)

yeah any NOOB wouldnt be able to build up their eco in time. anybody over major could do it imo

(btw i however am not major+ in rank. in fact im only corporal in rank :P) 

Raven_474:

TheLilRatchet:

No IMO it wont work: you have no time to build up an eco! How're going to spam  units and upgrade them! (or you're telling me you're trying to shipment spam... but lemme tell ya that you have a -15% on your shipments..)

yeah any NOOB wouldnt be able to build up their eco in time. anybody over major could do it imo

(btw i however am not major+ in rank. in fact im only corporal in rank :P) 

Ok it shows.. This is why a major + would never FF with india.. Here is some statistics to help you improve:

1. Vils takes 25 seconds to train.

2. India 10 on 10 rusers ages towards 4:05.

3. During transition, they must build 2 houses (200 wood) and vills (at least 200 wood). 

4. Before 6:00, you must have gathered 1200 food abd 1000 gold. To maintain vills production, you must have 3 of them on wood (+distribuvism). After aging, you should have the equivalence of 16.5 vills - 5.5= 11 vills to gather the food + gold. 

5. After age up, u get 1 vill per 25 second, that 4-5 before aging. Lets say uve aged with Taj Mahal and have send in 700 food. That's 500 gold and 500 food to gather.

6. You start aging (since you call it an FF, you must have at least 5-6 vils on it). Now, uve got the equivalence of 15.5 vils gathering for a rax, a market (if you want..), houses and a corral if you want anti-cav). With 6 vills on wonder, you should get to fortress within 40 seconds.

7. Now, if you're opponent is not a noob, he;d take a decent rushing or counter rush civ to fight back vs India. You';re fort should then be down before 6:30 AND if he's any good, he'd send archers to harass your vills.

8. CONGRATS! and Welcome to age 3 at 6:40-7:00!!. You have barely no economy (around 20 vills vs a good opponent), maybe a shipment ready (u have to spend food for urumis or mahouts) and you need to push him back.

9. You're fort is down. Hissiegers will now come to kill of your eco; in this case, your houses . He should have got at least one down.

10. He's got a better eco, more units, and should start planning to age while you will have like 5 epoys + some urumis that major + can out-micro.

11. GG

Now, I dont get it: why is ppl always trying to FF with india??! Uve got the best age2 counter system of the game, USE IT for god sakes..

TheLilRatchet:

Raven_474:

TheLilRatchet:

No IMO it wont work: you have no time to build up an eco! How're going to spam  units and upgrade them! (or you're telling me you're trying to shipment spam... but lemme tell ya that you have a -15% on your shipments..)

yeah any NOOB wouldnt be able to build up their eco in time. anybody over major could do it imo

(btw i however am not major+ in rank. in fact im only corporal in rank :P) 

ive used india FF few times, its mainly jus use gurkha and some sepoy and send ele cards to back up.

 

Ok it shows.. This is why a major + would never FF with india.. Here is some statistics to help you improve:

1. Vils takes 25 seconds to train.

2. India 10 on 10 rusers ages towards 4:05.

3. During transition, they must build 2 houses (200 wood) and vills (at least 200 wood). 

4. Before 6:00, you must have gathered 1200 food abd 1000 gold. To maintain vills production, you must have 3 of them on wood (+distribuvism). After aging, you should have the equivalence of 16.5 vills - 5.5= 11 vills to gather the food + gold. 

5. After age up, u get 1 vill per 25 second, that 4-5 before aging. Lets say uve aged with Taj Mahal and have send in 700 food. That's 500 gold and 500 food to gather.

6. You start aging (since you call it an FF, you must have at least 5-6 vils on it). Now, uve got the equivalence of 15.5 vils gathering for a rax, a market (if you want..), houses and a corral if you want anti-cav). With 6 vills on wonder, you should get to fortress within 40 seconds.

7. Now, if you're opponent is not a noob, he;d take a decent rushing or counter rush civ to fight back vs India. You';re fort should then be down before 6:30 AND if he's any good, he'd send archers to harass your vills.

8. CONGRATS! and Welcome to age 3 at 6:40-7:00!!. You have barely no economy (around 20 vills vs a good opponent), maybe a shipment ready (u have to spend food for urumis or mahouts) and you need to push him back.

9. You're fort is down. Hissiegers will now come to kill of your eco; in this case, your houses . He should have got at least one down.

10. He's got a better eco, more units, and should start planning to age while you will have like 5 epoys + some urumis that major + can out-micro.

11. GG

 

Now, I dont get it: why is ppl always trying to FF with india??! Uve got the best age2 counter system of the game, USE IT for god sakes..

TheLilRatchet:

Raven_474:

TheLilRatchet:

No IMO it wont work: you have no time to build up an eco! How're going to spam  units and upgrade them! (or you're telling me you're trying to shipment spam... but lemme tell ya that you have a -15% on your shipments..)

yeah any NOOB wouldnt be able to build up their eco in time. anybody over major could do it imo

(btw i however am not major+ in rank. in fact im only corporal in rank :P) 

 

 

Now, I dont get it: why is ppl always trying to FF with india??! Uve got the best age2 counter system of the game, USE IT for god sakes..

true. i forgot about that 

Raven_474:

Before i go ahead with it i need to know from the people in this forum.

Would an Indian "bluff 10 out 10 ff" work?

i was lying in my bed trying to go to sleep by think about AoE 3 strats and it came into my mind.

i was thinking to hit the enemy with 12 sepoys by 5 minutes like normal and he will think your going to keep rushing but then you go to the fortress.

would this work? 

maybe, but if people are getting rushed bad, they will sometimes go on the offensive and raid you while your not paying attention, and you can end up losing because of this, just watch out