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I was playing some noob on eso (im not usually a noob basher)

He was playing as germans and I as french. By the end of the 40 minute treaty, my score was over double his, so I played easy on him. I was amazed that how OP dopplesoldners were,  I did a curriasier spam cause they are easy to do, but then he made dopples..

I let my horses die and made a mix of falconets and skirmishers. For some reason his like 40 dopples survived the shots of about 80 skirmishers as they walked up to them, as well as about 5 falconets and killed them all but 20. Skirmishers are suposed to be good against infinty but they were useless against dopples. Is anything good against them??? I thought skirmishers were...

Because I had a mega eco I beat him easily but what if he was as good as me? I would not have had a chance... french vs. germans, do french have hope?

 

Falconets.. Go.... Dops take 2 population

Are you serious? What rank are you? Im thinking in the range of corpralish?

 

Ok forget about that.... if your skirmishers and falconets loses to some dopples then just pump in some muskets in there. Muskets make good meatshield and helps take out some dopples before they get into combat.

 

Advice : Dont make just 1-2 units... Make a combination e.e. Musks Skirms horse art and some curis to pest the opponent, motars, culverines or just make jinties to take out opponent canons if easilly guarded.

Lucky your not a british going lbows + falconets vs Dopples...

were your skirms and falcon imperial because they should own dopps, dopps are slow and every time i see them against any good skirm (french volts one of best) they get owned and when you add in french cannon (about the best in game) you should have wiped them out

You're right about them being powerful, but that shouldn't be the case...


Let's say for instance, if you have 50 skirms against 50 musketeers or some other heavy infantry, you should win with only a couple casualties; 1-5.
  With dopples it can be a bit harder, and if the doppels are able to get to your skirms, you should have about 10-20 casualties. If you can keep your skirms away though, then it's only a matter of time, and you should have typical casualties.

So I dunno how you lost almost an entire army of falcs and skirms. Was it a close-quarters fight, like at a hole in your wall, or some narrow path on the map? Doppels have AOE damage, so if you get a bunch of doppels attacking a tightly packed army, they'll really do some damage. If you can, always spread out your units when fighting doppels.

I think German eco could be better than french one (using all eco cards, and havin 70 sttlers gathering gold and 20 SW on mills of course), I like play germans and is so strange for me that u used 80 skirmishers and 5 falconets and 20 dopples survived, hope u were using imperial volts and campaing cannons (any name that best falconet has, idk name cause I have spanish game and I dont know several english names).

I think the best way for playing against german is making a very good micro imperial voltigeur and imperial halberdier with some horse artillery if germans player has uhlans/WW and needleguners/ dopples.

Ur advantage as french player against german players is miltary pop, german has 79 pop due to 99 settler and 20 sw, and french has 80 coureur that means that u have 120 pop for military units.

lol you people mak eme laugh... how on earth are dopps slow?? Theyre fast as they are but after church upgrade they're fastness are Oo

Skirms counter dopps at range, so don't let them get into close combat. Try to find choke points made by cliffs or go behind walls. Cannons also beat dopps.

Imdamasta:

 

 I did a curriasier spam cause they are easy to do, but then he made dopples..

 

No Wonder your Loseing.

 

Besides. Like Some Infantry or calvary Or Blah. They Will beat there Counters. Uncost effectively. Just have Mustkeeter Meat sheild to Soak in the damge, The rest souldf Be Shirs, or Cannons.

But Never EVER Cur, Spam Agenest a German. Thats Saying you want to Sucicide. (But "im not saying you souldn't train Cur.)

I told you why I did that... My score was like 1800 and his like 700 and I did not know what he was building, and I switched to skirmisher/falconet spam short after. Do not use things out of context, noob. Also I may have a low rank but I am ranked 21st in all of eso in 2v2. (Only lost 2 games ever with my friend xXKingbenXx, I was playing with him...)

 I beat the german player easy, but the question is what is good against dopples? I could not use any choke points cause I was playing on the map silk road. I know skirmishers are good against dopples, but is there anything better? Because I was out in the open his dopples came in fast and they hit mulitple units with their  sweep attacks. Cannons seem to do little to the as well, But because I had endless resources I killed him in like 10 minutes.

I now know I should have used some sort of meat shield to protect my skirmishers (musketeers/halberders)  But is that the best way to take on dopples? What is the best against them?

 

DeathDVC:

Ur advantage as french player against german players is miltary pop, german has 79 pop due to 99 settler and 20 sw, and french has 80 coureur that means that u have 120 pop for military units.

I doubt any german with intentions of winning the game (except if he's extremely insane at micro'ing) will keep his full vill pop. It simply will not allow enough mil units to ever get into the game really.

Imdamasta:

I now know I should have used some sort of meat shield to protect my skirmishers (musketeers/halberders) But is that the best way to take on dopples? What is the best against them?

I believe you already got your answer, anyway if we're merely talking doppels, I could imagine a ton of horseguns behind a few halberdiers or muskets is probably the best way, untill he switches to other units.