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  •  06-05-2009, 12:47 PM 816878
    bloodysepoy bloodysepoy is not online. Last active: 12-04-2009, 11:47 PM
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    Subject: the most underestimated treaty civilization

    well to me dutch seems to be one of the most underestimated and used less civilization when it comes to treaty.

    but myself i love using dutch, ok i know they dont have a great eco but you can still have a pretty decent economy by microing your eco to hit imperial as soon as possible.

     i do hit imperial by 18 minutes, and get all my upgrades done by 19.5 mins(rarely 20)

     ok now you have a decent economy, now comes the important task - that is to maintain a decent economy by inflicting more damage to the opponent by superiror battlefield tactics.

    now this what i do

    1)by using my superior numbers(150 military pop) to overwhelm my opponent.

    2)by reserving 50 pop for your artillery units like cannons, mortars and a couple of culverines.

    3) ruyter - these guys are awesome and they only take 1 pop, so you can mass a huge army to protect ur artillery.

    4) dont spam halbs against any type of infantry, keep few near your artillery(you wont need them much, ruyters do an excellent job)

    5)i only use halbs against goons, even though ruyters own goons a few halbs make your job easier.

    few more notes - i love using dutch against japan, they do an excellent job against japan.

    i find dutch skirmishers pretty handy too.

     well i am still a master sergeant(i think m a bit underrated cause i haven't really played many treaty games)

     

    but so far so good, add me on eso - bloodysepoy

    we can play together and please share your views about dutch

     

     

     


  •  06-05-2009, 2:04 PM 816892 in reply to 816878
    Rosen Rosen is not online. Last active: 06-08-2009, 2:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: the most underestimated treaty civilization

    Yes the dutch is a very good civilization. I play Dutch ever since i started playng a game. The banks are very good and with dutch i hit Imperial for 16 minutes.However their Troops ar very poor(skirmishers)Sad


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  •  06-05-2009, 2:31 PM 816898 in reply to 816878
    artisticcheese artisticcheese is not online. Last active: 01-03-2014, 4:32 PM
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    Subject: Re: the most underestimated treaty civilization
    bloodysepoy:

    ok i know they dont have a great eco but you can still have a pretty decent economy by microing your eco to hit imperial as soon as possible.

    Dutch does not have great eco? Why do you say that?

  •  06-05-2009, 2:51 PM 816905 in reply to 816898
    Frankie_117 Frankie_117 is not online. Last active: 11/17/2012, 12:16 PM
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    Subject: Re: the most underestimated treaty civilization
    artisticcheese:
    bloodysepoy:

    ok i know they dont have a great eco but you can still have a pretty decent economy by microing your eco to hit imperial as soon as possible.

    Dutch does not have great eco? Why do you say that?

     Because they only get 54 villis, and 10 banks does not make up the difference. Fishing helps, but still that is an extra hassle and odds are other players will be fighting over whales and fish as well. Plus, with those 54 villis you are supporting 150 military population.

  •  06-05-2009, 2:59 PM 816907 in reply to 816905
    Hidan Hidan is not online. Last active: 08-17-2013, 12:30 AM
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    Subject: Re: the most underestimated treaty civilization
    imo, it's not even worth it to delay your industrial until you max out 50 villes, simply because you get a huge eco boost when you reach industrial, and the sooner, the better.  The dutch eco is pretty bad, but their military can really get the job done.  Their skirms are pretty strong, ruyters are good, but the main focus of their army is cannons.  imo, they'd be a more balanced civ if they had engineering school.  They're underrated, but not really all that strong anyways.

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  •  06-05-2009, 3:23 PM 816913 in reply to 816907
    GeorgeCusterd GeorgeCusterd is not online. Last active: 04-17-2012, 9:24 PM
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    Subject: Re: the most underestimated treaty civilization

    FU banks can gather around 4.5 coin/second.  So 10 banks would gather 45 coin a second and 450 every 10 secs and 4500 every minute and 2/3s. 

    If you start this by 20 minutes, you should have 66k coin gathered by banks by end of treaty.


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  •  06-05-2009, 3:35 PM 816915 in reply to 816913
    Packers_Fan Packers_Fan is not online. Last active: 06-22-2009, 5:49 AM
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    Subject: Re: the most underestimated treaty civilization

    That doesnt suddenly make dutch OP. France gets 150k+ with fur trade.

     

    Dutch Skirs are better than france Skirs due to the 999999 cards they have and in good ol Nilla 100 Halbs surrounding 10 Falconets > Noob opponents (which s really everynoe on nilla that plays treaty)


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  •  06-05-2009, 4:56 PM 816932 in reply to 816915
    Metis Metis is not online. Last active: Thu, Dec 26 2013, 1:38 AM
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    Subject: Re: the most underestimated treaty civilization

    Remember that there are also other treaty times besides 40. Dutch really shine at NR 20 and NR 30. And as a fishing civ the Dutch absolutely own as you can have a 150-settler econ plus a full-sized army.

     

     

  •  06-05-2009, 5:43 PM 816935 in reply to 816913
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    Subject: Re: the most underestimated treaty civilization
    GeorgeCusterd:

    FU banks can gather around 4.5 coin/second.  So 10 banks would gather 45 coin a second and 450 every 10 secs and 4500 every minute and 2/3s.

    4.5 coin a second? where did u get that?

    un upgraded bank gathers at 2.75 a second, and the only upgrade it gets is the tulip industries card, which gives it 15%, and leaves it at about 3.15 coind a second.


  •  06-05-2009, 5:54 PM 816940 in reply to 816935
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    Subject: Re: the most underestimated treaty civilization
    i have been playing the game since the year it came out and i have never even been the dutch. and they are the only civ that i have never tried. on another note, i've only been the germans once before. other than that i've been all the other civs at least 3 times or more
  •  06-05-2009, 7:46 PM 816952 in reply to 816935
    Metis Metis is not online. Last active: Thu, Dec 26 2013, 1:38 AM
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    Subject: Re: the most underestimated treaty civilization
    RasRas:
    bank gathers at 2.75 a second...tulip industries card gives it 15%... about 3.15 coin a second.

    I just confirmed this in a test. I've seen that 4.5 figure many times but am not sure where people got it.

  •  06-05-2009, 8:06 PM 816957 in reply to 816935
    James James is not online. Last active: 04-18-2010, 8:46 PM
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    Subject: Re: the most underestimated treaty civilization
    RasRas:
    GeorgeCusterd:

    FU banks can gather around 4.5 coin/second.  So 10 banks would gather 45 coin a second and 450 every 10 secs and 4500 every minute and 2/3s.

    4.5 coin a second? where did u get that?

    un upgraded bank gathers at 2.75 a second, and the only upgrade it gets is the tulip industries card, which gives it 15%, and leaves it at about 3.15 coind a second.

    u know that card in the capital - excessive taxation. it affects banks too


    aloysius-im banned until 2162 again. it says its for "attacking other forum members". i havent attacked any other forum members seriously. i have attacked members IDEAS, not members themselves. also since when does this get you perm banned? please respond
  •  06-05-2009, 8:31 PM 816971 in reply to 816952
    artisticcheese artisticcheese is not online. Last active: 01-03-2014, 4:32 PM
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    Subject: Re: the most underestimated treaty civilization
    How fast 10 workers garther fully upgraded from1 plantation?
  •  06-05-2009, 8:32 PM 816972 in reply to 816957
    GeorgeCusterd GeorgeCusterd is not online. Last active: 04-17-2012, 9:24 PM
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    Subject: Re: the most underestimated treaty civilization
    James:
    RasRas:
    GeorgeCusterd:

    FU banks can gather around 4.5 coin/second.  So 10 banks would gather 45 coin a second and 450 every 10 secs and 4500 every minute and 2/3s.

    4.5 coin a second? where did u get that?

    un upgraded bank gathers at 2.75 a second, and the only upgrade it gets is the tulip industries card, which gives it 15%, and leaves it at about 3.15 coind a second.

    u know that card in the capital - excessive taxation. it affects banks too

    ya, says me the
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  •  06-05-2009, 8:33 PM 816974 in reply to 816972
    James James is not online. Last active: 04-18-2010, 8:46 PM
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    Subject: Re: the most underestimated treaty civilization
    nice picture. mind if copy and paste that into my sig Stick out tongue

    aloysius-im banned until 2162 again. it says its for "attacking other forum members". i havent attacked any other forum members seriously. i have attacked members IDEAS, not members themselves. also since when does this get you perm banned? please respond
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