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  •  10-24-2009, 7:20 AM 850823
    EtherImp EtherImp is not online. Last active: 11/20/2009, 11:23 PM
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    Subject: Unit A kills Unit B

    Would anyone be interested in helping me collect (or find) some information regarding how many "hits" it takes for 1 unit to kill another unit type?

    There used to be a thread that covered a lot of this information and I'm almost positive a complete list exists somewhere on one of these Age forums (Heaven, Sanct, etc)

     An example would be:

    Xbow kills Jan in 16 shots
    Skirmisher kills Musketeer in 6 shots

    Uhlan kills Villager in 4 hits

    etc..

    This is great information for improving everyones micro.. If you know exactly how many skirmishers it takes to kill a musketeer, for example, you can prevent a lot of "over kill" or "underkill" and be much more efficient..

    Anyone willing to put some research into figuring this stuff out?


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  •  10-24-2009, 7:56 AM 850826 in reply to 850823
    Babri Babri is not online. Last active: 20 Nov 2009, 7:56 AM
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    Subject: Re: Unit A kills Unit B
    Would you consider standard units or with upgrades from Arsenal, Shipments etc ?
  •  10-24-2009, 8:41 AM 850835 in reply to 850826
    EtherImp EtherImp is not online. Last active: 11/20/2009, 11:23 PM
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    Subject: Re: Unit A kills Unit B
    Standard, as everyone pretty much upgrades at the same %.

    IE - Imperial vs Imperial should be the same.

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  •  10-24-2009, 9:33 AM 850841 in reply to 850823
    Lojzek Lojzek is not online. Last active: 11/20/2009, 6:58 AM
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    Subject: Re: Unit A kills Unit B
    EtherImp:

     An example would be:

    Xbow kills Jan in 16 shots
    Skirmisher kills Musketeer in 6 shots

    Uhlan kills Villager in 4 hits

    etc..

    I don't think this is the right approach. If you have n different units, then you would have to remember/write data for n*n different pairs. It is much easier to remember/write attack, hit points and resistance values for each unit: then it is easy to calculate the number of hits required to kill:

     Number of hits for a unit A to kill B is:

    hits[A->B]=hitpoints[ B ]/(attack[ A ]*(1-resistance[ B ]))


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  •  10-24-2009, 9:47 AM 850847 in reply to 850841
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    Subject: Re: Unit A kills Unit B
    Shogun kills strelet in 1 hit.

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  •  10-24-2009, 9:58 AM 850853 in reply to 850841
    EtherImp EtherImp is not online. Last active: 11/20/2009, 11:23 PM
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    Subject: Re: Unit A kills Unit B
    Lojzek:
    EtherImp:

     An example would be:

    Xbow kills Jan in 16 shots
    Skirmisher kills Musketeer in 6 shots

    Uhlan kills Villager in 4 hits

    etc..

    I don't think this is the right approach. If you have n different units, then you would have to remember/write data for n*n different pairs. It is much easier to remember/write attack, hit points and resistance values for each unit: then it is easy to calculate the number of hits required to kill:

     Number of hits for a unit A to kill B is:

    hits[A->B]=hitpoints[ B ]/(attack[ A ]*(1-resistance[ B ]))

     

    You don't have to remember/write data for each pair.. Just the ones that are pertinent to you. Besides that, the only units which you would really pay attention to are the units likely to be used against one another... Like, why bother remembering Dopps to Muskets, for example?

    However, how many Xbows it takes to kill a Jan, or how many Hussars/Uhlans it takes to kill a villie in 1 hit is much more commonly used info.


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  •  10-24-2009, 11:07 AM 850874 in reply to 850823
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    Subject: Re: Unit A kills Unit B
    I have seen a thread about this on Heavengames a few months ago, maybe it´s still there somewhere.
  •  10-24-2009, 11:26 AM 850881 in reply to 850847
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    Subject: Re: Unit A kills Unit B

    TheBestRuler:
    Shogun kills strelet in 1 hit.

    Not only strelets but villagers too. :-)

  •  10-25-2009, 1:27 PM 851077 in reply to 850881
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    Subject: Re: Unit A kills Unit B
    Try heavengames


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  •  10-25-2009, 4:59 PM 851101 in reply to 851077
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    Subject: Re: Unit A kills Unit B

    _tank:
    Try heavengames

     

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  •  10-25-2009, 8:57 PM 851137 in reply to 850847
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    Subject: Re: Unit A kills Unit B

    TheBestRuler:
    Shogun kills strelet in 1 hit.

     

    lol, o rly?

  •  10-26-2009, 2:00 AM 851165 in reply to 850881
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    Subject: Re: Unit A kills Unit B
    Babri:

    TheBestRuler:
    Shogun kills strelet in 1 hit.

    Not only strelets but villagers too. :-)

    He's real Muthafucka!!!


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  •  10-26-2009, 2:02 AM 851167 in reply to 851165
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    Subject: Re: Unit A kills Unit B
    Party Rock Crew:
    Babri:

    TheBestRuler:
    Shogun kills strelet in 1 hit.

    Not only strelets but villagers too. :-)

    He's real Muthafucka!!!

    yea


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  •  10-26-2009, 3:51 AM 851178 in reply to 851165
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    Subject: Re: Unit A kills Unit B
    Party Rock Crew:
    Babri:

    TheBestRuler:
    Shogun kills strelet in 1 hit.

    Not only strelets but villagers too. :-)

    He's real Muthafucka!!!

    wow your use of profanity, seeming to be the only thing in your small vocabulary, is just as stupid as much as you are.

    swearing in every post doesn't make you seem cool or smart but as a total jerk and idiot. 


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  •  10-26-2009, 4:38 AM 851179 in reply to 851178
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    Subject: Re: Unit A kills Unit B
    Thomas B:
    Party Rock Crew:
    Babri:

    TheBestRuler:
    Shogun kills strelet in 1 hit.

    Not only strelets but villagers too. :-)

    He's real Muthafucka!!!

    wow your use of profanity, seeming to be the only thing in your small vocabulary, is just as stupid as much as you are.

    swearing in every post doesn't make you seem cool or smart but as a total jerk and idiot. 

    Common keep going  Party Rock Crew don't stop there :P

    However i assume everyone will soon be against you on these forums, especially EtherImp for defiling his domain. His domain, his lands, his kingdom of ESO forums in which he tries to maintain his reign in a swarm of those he proclaims to be noobs. like myself :P

    1st post       WOOOOTT!!!!

    bring your party rock crew with me dawggggg :P

    Stephennn :)

     

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