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what is your starting army with ALL the civs u play?

for my russia:

30 opric + 1 dragoon (from church) box

hussars and dragoons (from church)  10 muskets (away from each other to build forts) and 30 halbs

i also want to know what starting army should i have for brits?

Starting armies depend on every civ you're up against.

If I'd be playing against an Aztec, I wouldn't build any Culvs, since Aztec have no art.

But if you don't know your civs/other civs as well yet, always make one which could counter any type of unit. 

My german starting army for india, germany, and ottos would be would be

India: 3 mahouts, 3 howdahs, rest sepoys with mansabdar( no gurkha because i want to set up tons of fbs)

Germany: 5 war wagons, 3 falcs, 20 dopps, and rest skirms.

Ottos: 15 cav archers, 20 jans, and rest abus( this one is ownage)

i personally always use the skirmisher-gendarme combo

but i also enjoy a "one of everything" combo

My two cents for Russia: If your opponents are leuit and above, I would not start with a box unless you specifically see a weakness.  I prefer Cav Archers, muskets, two horse cannon, and some ophis.  I use the overpop from the church to either help a teammate or to just search the board for random villies.  Get up front, make that fort/fbs and forward walls and really get in there.  If a russian comes at me with a box (or any civ box besides Souix, cause that takes special attention), typically I can take out the box with part of my army while I kill whatever villies or muskets he has out there trying to build up front with the other part.  Even if the box gets down to my last wall, it will be dead and the opponent will now be on his heals.

There are good circumstances for boxes though.  If you can coordinate with your teammates they can be very powerful.  You can also use them as a distraction, although better players will see through it.  I am certainly not advocating to never use a box, just that there is a time and a place for it.  Clues that I look for at 40 that might make me go to a box: 1. A french guy who isn't ready from his fur trade 2. Four or less walls 3. A large amount of barracks built outside the opponents town 4. Generally just an opponent that is not ready

lwm4p:

My two cents for Russia: If your opponents are leuit and above, I would not start with a box unless you specifically see a weakness.  I prefer Cav Archers, muskets, two horse cannon, and some ophis.  I use the overpop from the church to either help a teammate or to just search the board for random villies.  Get up front, make that fort/fbs and forward walls and really get in there.  If a russian comes at me with a box (or any civ box besides Souix, cause that takes special attention), typically I can take out the box with part of my army while I kill whatever villies or muskets he has out there trying to build up front with the other part.  Even if the box gets down to my last wall, it will be dead and the opponent will now be on his heals.

There are good circumstances for boxes though.  If you can coordinate with your teammates they can be very powerful.  You can also use them as a distraction, although better players will see through it.  I am certainly not advocating to never use a box, just that there is a time and a place for it.  Clues that I look for at 40 that might make me go to a box: 1. A french guy who isn't ready from his fur trade 2. Four or less walls 3. A large amount of barracks built outside the opponents town 4. Generally just an opponent that is not ready

usually when a good players does a box, they dont use all their pop just for that, they know that they are coming for his base so they place the remaning soldiers outside to distract you from the box they have coming your way

how would you know if a guy was ready from his fur trade or not?

why would use anything for a box other than dopps, hatamoto, sams, gends, dogs, opris, or skull nights? THere are only certain civs that u would consider using a box for......

Rezarecshun:

lwm4p:

My two cents for Russia: If your opponents are leuit and above, I would not start with a box unless you specifically see a weakness.  I prefer Cav Archers, muskets, two horse cannon, and some ophis.  I use the overpop from the church to either help a teammate or to just search the board for random villies.  Get up front, make that fort/fbs and forward walls and really get in there.  If a russian comes at me with a box (or any civ box besides Souix, cause that takes special attention), typically I can take out the box with part of my army while I kill whatever villies or muskets he has out there trying to build up front with the other part.  Even if the box gets down to my last wall, it will be dead and the opponent will now be on his heals.

There are good circumstances for boxes though.  If you can coordinate with your teammates they can be very powerful.  You can also use them as a distraction, although better players will see through it.  I am certainly not advocating to never use a box, just that there is a time and a place for it.  Clues that I look for at 40 that might make me go to a box: 1. A french guy who isn't ready from his fur trade 2. Four or less walls 3. A large amount of barracks built outside the opponents town 4. Generally just an opponent that is not ready

usually when a good players does a box, they dont use all their pop just for that, they know that they are coming for his base so they place the remaning soldiers outside to distract you from the box they have coming your way

how would you know if a guy was ready from his fur trade or not?

why would use anything for a box other than dopps, hatamoto, sams, gends, dogs, opris, or skull nights? THere are only certain civs that u would consider using a box for......

Taunt 2 

Depends on what they are making, When i have spies i know what they are attacking with, so then i know with what to defend. 

But i believe you where reffering to rush... 

Spanish will almost always have one constant, x10 missionaries. The remainder is subject to change, if it's me personally and it's a map that supports building a dock(even in a puddle, or small stream) I will have at least one make-shift fixed gun(monitor) for my missionaries to buff to 700+ damage, 10 area, and a LOS of 48(nearly half the range of the long-range attack).

Even with penalties versus villagers/ranged resistance, a monitor under Unction influence can inflict 87-146 damage on villagers along with the 7000+ damage to buildings.

Jacob Chulainn:

Spanish will almost always have one constant, x10 missionaries. The remainder is subject to change, if it's me personally and it's a map that supports building a dock(even in a puddle, or small stream) I will have at least one make-shift fixed gun(monitor) for my missionaries to buff to 700+ damage, 10 area, and a LOS of 48(nearly half the range of the long-range attack).

Even with penalties versus villagers/ranged resistance, a monitor under Unction influence can inflict 87-146 damage on villagers along with the 7000+ damage to buildings.

That's sick. Never thought of it :P

DarkAngel_Fin:

Jacob Chulainn:

Spanish will almost always have one constant, x10 missionaries. The remainder is subject to change, if it's me personally and it's a map that supports building a dock(even in a puddle, or small stream) I will have at least one make-shift fixed gun(monitor) for my missionaries to buff to 700+ damage, 10 area, and a LOS of 48(nearly half the range of the long-range attack).

Even with penalties versus villagers/ranged resistance, a monitor under Unction influence can inflict 87-146 damage on villagers along with the 7000+ damage to buildings.

That's sick. Never thought of it :P

Taunt 1 

My starting armys for ports france and germany go something like this:

France: usually 10-15 grendmeres some horse artillery and culuverns 10 dragoons  20 muskets and the rest skirmishers. and the grenadiers from the church if I have the card space

 Germany: horse artillery, 10 uhlans, 5 wagons the rest skirmishers and the dopple card from the church

 portugal. 5 organ guns 2 culuverns. 15 dragoons, 25 cassadores, the black riders and crossbows from the church.

Armies differ depending on the civ im faceing and also some of my poulation totals may not add up since I havnt played in a while

XxX_RAGE_XxX:

Depends on what they are making, When i have spies i know what they are attacking with, so then i know with what to defend. 

But i believe you where reffering to rush... 

Rezarecshun:

XxX_RAGE_XxX:

Depends on what they are making, When i have spies i know what they are attacking with, so then i know with what to defend. 

But i believe you where reffering to rush... 

no why would i be reffering to rush if i said fur trade in my opinion.......stupid

Taunt 23 

people these days...

Thanks for sticking up for me sunilD93 :D