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Any thoughts guys?

Assume that both players are highly skilled with the given civilizations

india allday long sepoy and howdah it's game over, advantage for india that german have slow artillery train time

i never would have thought......so the order of best non-op is

Ports

China

India

then Gemrany

Many people consider india as OP, because of agra fort and sepoys.

Dude this is treaty forums, how the heck does an agra fort help in treaty

Lol I didnt notice, but still India is very good In treaty because of fur trade and Karni Mata the only thing that doesn't make it OP in treaty is the slow train time.

i could almost imagine how awesome India would be with normal training times

I think that sepoys being able to build barracks compensate that because you can build them so fast. I used to play India in treaty, but I dont play treaty anymore, reason that makes me leave this thread, but when I played I massed barracks to ballance with slow training times, but I also did like half the barracks Gurka and the other half Sepoy to have a ballanced army and not being pwned by massed cav.

you forgot that they have no falc unit and that siege elephants only have 28 range.

Rezarecshun:

Any thoughts guys?

Assume that both players are highly skilled with the given civilizations

 

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WTF Sunil, why u keep doing that?

Anyways, you can just put siege eles in the middle of sepoys and that would conpensate for its low range, but culverins wouls still own them. But why would ES make siege eles have 300 more HP, less attack, and less attack than a mortar. I remember the frst time i used India and i thought siege eles were cannons, and i gave up like 30 pop just to make 5 to counter the massed infantry of the Russian player against.....wat a bad idea that was......

Siege eles beat culvs if they can get close enough.  But using culvs against india isn't exactly a great idea anyways...  I'm more concerned about their poor anti-mortar ability.  India's fine for treaty, but nowhere near OP.

Rezarecshun:

WTF Sunil, why u keep doing that?

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Rezarecshun:

 

Anyways, you can just put siege eles in the middle of sepoys and that would conpensate for its low range, but culverins wouls still own them. But why would ES make siege eles have 300 more HP, less attack, and less attack than a mortar. I remember the frst time i used India and i thought siege eles were cannons, and i gave up like 30 pop just to make 5 to counter the massed infantry of the Russian player against.....wat a bad idea that was......

you got mahout vs *LI and gurkha/urumi/sepoy which does fine vs HI 

alanspunks:

india allday long sepoy and howdah it's game over, advantage for india that german have slow artillery train time

man what are you talking about.  on andes at 40 india is much more powerfull because of over pop tactics that all asian civs are very good at.  delete 50 vills and germany will own india.  of coarse india has the better units, similar issues with pop space but imo germany>india once the cards get sent. indias xp gathering gives them a clear cut advatage at 40 min but ive seen in the past, if germany can get a trade route post its much more even and germany wins. cannon lame.

i think i posted a recording of german vs india last week at trt site. the nub didnt use natives so he had no chance.

BuZz_D:

alanspunks:

india allday long sepoy and howdah it's game over, advantage for india that german have slow artillery train time

man what are you talking about.  on andes at 40 india is much more powerfull because of over pop tactics that all asian civs are very good at.  delete 50 vills and germany will own india.  of coarse india has the better units, similar issues with pop space but imo germany>india once the cards get sent. indias xp gathering gives them a clear cut advatage at 40 min but ive seen in the past, if germany can get a trade route post its much more even and germany wins. cannon lame.

i think i posted a recording of german vs india last week at trt site. the nub didnt use natives so he had no chance.

 

had no chance... he still gave a  good game even without indians lol and imo should of won that game but he didnt take advantage. if u wanan delete 50 vill u go ahead and do that but u should be deleting 50 vills with germany anyways lol?, its not hard to just delete 10-20 vills with india if need  be, there eco si good enough to manage without them . cannons  just doesnt work with germany against india because of the slow train time plus push 1 or 2 howdahs up and they will take care of them np at all , but i guess u no best. u always seen to come back at me like i dont no what im talking about , yet u never proven nothing to me , u talk a good game thats about it