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i have been practicng with the Russians, they are an amazing turtle civ. the Russians have a card that will turn all cheap strelets into muskateer instantly. this is one of the fastest way to build a giant army. here is how the strategy works. (i need help making a BO, someone)

you need to turtle for this strategy and spam strelets in colonial. So do an ageup with 17 vills (depending on ur opponents civ). This strategy works good on texas map bc you start with two blockhouses. Age up with Quartermaster, ship 700 wood, have vills on food, build lots of houses bc strelets take up a lot of pop. horses will slaughter the strelets so box them inside a wall if you want to be careful and put vills in your TC to shoot down the horses, the strelets will take down infantry. Ship 700 coin and have vills gather 300, Age up to fortress with the politician who gives 17 strelets, meanwhile keep spamming strelets galore, once you are at fortress ship card "Survov Reforms" and reasersch "Veteran Musketeer" Start moving your army of strelets away from your base and towards your enemies base, once the card arrives all of your massed strelets will turn into veteran musketeers. move your vills onto food and gold so you can make musketeers, Now you have a massive 150pop army of veteran musketeer Startnow get the card "Ransack" and this will increase the infantry's siege by 50% destroy his, military, then rax, then houses, then outposts, then then TC last, then stable/market/etc

(someone good with russian help make a BO if u want)

if you get rushed during colonial its over. not to mention spamming one type of unit leaves you easily countered. if im understanding what you said right, boxing in your stretlets is absolutely a bad idea. your units should be used to harass settlers/hard counter opponents units during colonial, not to sit around inside of a wall. if used properly, russians can indeed be a good turtle civ, but the way you explained that strat didn't sound like a good idea, and russia imo is actually a much better colonial rush civ than a turtle civ. none of this is meant to be offensive, just giving my opinion on your strategy. 

savorybeefsteak:

no 

savorybeefsteak:

good lord, no 

savorybeefsteak:

stop posting 

savorybeefsteak:

*** off 

IrjaOwnsAll:

savorybeefsteak:

no 

savorybeefsteak:

good lord, no 

savorybeefsteak:

stop posting 

savorybeefsteak:

*** off 

+1

hi yo how's his "rush" going to take on a massive army of strelets. if he wants horsies he has to spend wood to build a stable and spend resources to build horsies, but then if he builds horsies just make build two batches of musketeers and have put them on meelee mode against the horsies meanwhile the strelets swallow his rush alive!!! :D :D :D

HunterCallahan:

IrjaOwnsAll:

savorybeefsteak:

no 

savorybeefsteak:

good lord, no 

savorybeefsteak:

stop posting 

savorybeefsteak:

*** off 

+1

+2

StrategicJoeL:

hi yo how's his "rush" going to take on a massive army of strelets. if he wants horsies he has to spend wood to build a stable and spend resources to build horsies, but then if he builds horsies just make build two batches of musketeers and have put them on meelee mode against the horsies meanwhile the strelets swallow his rush alive!!! :D :D :D

Enemy player FF's and makes cannons and skirmishers and all other good units. GG

skhsri:

StrategicJoeL:

hi yo how's his "rush" going to take on a massive army of strelets. if he wants horsies he has to spend wood to build a stable and spend resources to build horsies, but then if he builds horsies just make build two batches of musketeers and have put them on meelee mode against the horsies meanwhile the strelets swallow his rush alive!!! :D :D :D

Enemy player FF's and makes cannons and skirmishers and all other good units. GG

this is a fortress strategy there will be cannons etc OP veteran muskrateers oprinchinks horse archers

I stopped reading once I saw "StrategicJoel."

Honestly this strat isnt half bad. It isn't exactly "viable" but you can get away with it pretty easily, especially if you use it against a boom civ. The only one that I think would nice lose to this, of all that posted, is SergeantRofl :)

Jerom:

Honestly this strat isnt half bad. It isn't exactly "viable" but you can get away with it pretty easily, especially if you use it against a boom civ. The only one that I think would nice lose to this, of all that posted, is SergeantRofl :)

If Jerom says so, then it MUST be true. 

Id advice against using it, but it just seems like you guys all consider this strat as some kind of conscript strat. It is important to know of its existance and to know how to deal with it. Its that one win that seperates the good players from the average players.

Jerom:

Its that one win that seperates the good players from the average players.

I just played a guy today that had 4 wins and was a lvl 28 captain. He sucked though, don't know how he got there.

Jerom:

Id advice against using it, but it just seems like you guys all consider this strat as some kind of conscript strat. It is important to know of its existance and to know how to deal with it. Its that one win that seperates the good players from the average players.

I just think that only making strels and putting them in a wall box is an invitation for heavy raiding and an enemy boom or FF. Honestly I don't think it's viable above say level 14.

HunterCallahan:

Jerom:

Id advice against using it, but it just seems like you guys all consider this strat as some kind of conscript strat. It is important to know of its existance and to know how to deal with it. Its that one win that seperates the good players from the average players.

I just think that only making strels and putting them in a wall box is an invitation for heavy raiding and an enemy boom or FF. Honestly I don't think it's viable above say level 14.

Do you ever think about that when you play vs russia ? I never see any 2nd lt get so aggresive that he can actually scout this.

The point is, yes a part of the community uses some strat on default that makes him win, but there prolly also is a big part of them that would lose to this. Maybe its not u, but then its someone else. Good players can beat every strat that people throw at them, and do not just beat a random set of wonky strats because their strat coincidentally beats their opponents.

For example as dutch you have to pike skirm semi against French musk huss and huss (pike) semi against French semi. A part of the community of noobs goes huss semi and thus can beat french semi, but will lose vs Musk huss, while another part loses to semi and beats musk huss. The good player uses the right strat in the right situation and wins in both cases.